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Old 06-24-2011, 01:27 AM   #1
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Default Valanciunas Mix

Not sure if it's been posted here but something to get excited about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNugzv7_Uo
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:32 AM   #2
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he seems to have long arms and be post oriented

also doesn't look/act like a fairy like bargnani
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:38 AM   #3
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Man, if he develops that post game, he is going to be a beaasst. Have not seen any young big man who has a post game, except for brook lopez and dwight howard ofcourse. But, we'll see what happens. He can either be a flop or a great asset to the raps
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:29 AM   #4
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Things I noticed/liked:

-seems to be extremely agile for a big man
-seems to be very quick off his feet
-seems to run well in transition
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:37 AM   #5
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He's got a 7-6 wingspan too. If Val comes over this year, that's great, but if there's a lockout, he'll have the advantage of playing and improving while everyone else trains in informal workouts. Plus, we should be able to get a top 5 pick again next year in a very deep draft full of point guards and small forwards (exactly what we need).

The only rough part will be watching pretty much the same team +/- a few scrubs for an entire season.
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Old 06-24-2011, 03:06 AM   #6
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Looks good, I remember the highlight of Bargnani in Italy consisted of him mainly shooting jumpers.
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Old 06-24-2011, 03:09 AM   #7
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Euro, lol. I love the Raptors.

Lockout would benefit Val...

Meh, I'm not putting my hope in the guy tho.
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:21 AM   #8
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things i noticed about him.... he has good hands, good foot work.
but i also noticed he was playing against very not talented players. dunking over smaller guys and what not. hopefully this pans out for the raps though
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:11 AM   #9
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Do you guys think that the Valanciunas pick implies that the Raptors are thinking about trading Bargs?
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:47 AM   #10
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^ Well with BC's end of season comments, it sounds like he has considered that Bargs does not meet with what this team expects from him (took him a while to figure that out though ). So he probably is on the market.
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:13 PM   #11
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the things i noticed on this clip + extras on youtube...

pros
low post player
nice hands
good pick n roll
decent defender (block shots, changing shots)
runs the floor

cons
barely seen him use his left hand
no jump shots taken ?! can this guy shoot the ball
seems like he lacks "the lift" to go over some of the bigs in the NBA
not strong enough (as yet)

he could balance well with bargs but i am not sold on this kid as yet...IMO
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:21 PM   #12
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^ Well with BC's end of season comments, it sounds like he has considered that Bargs does not meet with what this team expects from him (took him a while to figure that out though ). So he probably is on the market.

Of course... Try to build around Nowitzki as a C, and then come back.
@ BC

Imo you could very well build around Bargs, as long as you realise that he needs to play the 4, and to be paired witha defensive C.


No I'm not implying that Bargs = Nowitzki but they do have similar characteristics
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:38 PM   #13
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seems like he lacks "the lift" to go over some of the bigs in the NBA
not strong enough (as yet)
Those are things that worry me right now. The strength issue shouldn't be a problem long-term since he's only 19 as long he's committed to hard work. The other one is a bit confusing. For whatever reason, you don't see Val getting off the ground much. Unless he has some great footwork, this might affect his offensive potential.

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Of course... Try to build around Nowitzki as a C, and then come back.
And in the Raptors' case it's a very poor rman's Nowitzki. Hell, Bargnani is basically a poor man's Bosh.
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:40 PM   #14
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Those are things that worry me right now. The strength issue shouldn't be a problem long-term since he's only 19 as long he's committed to hard work. The other one is a bit confusing. For whatever reason, you don't see Val getting off the ground much. Unless he has some great footwork, this might affect his offensive potential.


And in the Raptors' case it's a very poor rman's Nowitzki. Hell, Bargnani is basically a poor man's Bosh.

Naaah, Bosh doesn't shoot 3s like Bargs.

Definitely a poor man's Dirk.
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:55 PM   #15
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Naaah, Bosh doesn't shoot 3s like Bargs.

Definitely a poor man's Dirk.

More like a homeless man's Dirk. The two shouldn't even be in the same league.

I just like that at least if Val busts it'll be as a man trying to legitimately succeed in the post. If he bulks up I see at least Chandler-like potential and that aint half bad.

As far as Val's elevation, there are a couple times in the video he seems to have pretty good hops on some running dunks/put backs, and then others that he doesn't. He's scouted to be a legit athelete so I wonder if it's just that he's so much taller than the people he's playing against who aren't crazy atheletes either so he just doesn't have to jump that high?
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