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Old 06-24-2011, 04:09 PM   #31
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Felton
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wes matthews
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Old 06-24-2011, 04:10 PM   #32
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Felton
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Such an awesome team

If only Oden stayed healthy and Brandon Roy was '08 Brandon Roy, and not no knee's Roy.
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Old 06-24-2011, 04:20 PM   #33
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he puts up all star calibur numbers in a system that Nate McMillan wouldn't run in a million years. Felton isn't going to do anything more for Portland than what he did in Charlotte.

Why does everybody say that as if Felton wasn't good in Charlotte as well as NY? Felton was put in a terrible situation in Charlotte. He was a well touted rookie who was played out of position in Charlotte and then when he was finally given the starting position the team had drafted his replacement.

While dealing with these circumstances he was still solid in Charlotte, and his team-mates as well as management and coaching staff all spoke about how much the team missed him last year. He put up solid numbers while sharing minutes and led Charlotte to its only playoff apperance.

Give him more minutes and account for the fact that he has grown as a player and has more talent around him than he's ever had and look out.

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Portland tried to make a splash, but didn't. Really confused as to what their goal is by making this move, because you could tell last year they weren't that far away from really competing. This just seems like a step back now and a step sideways in the future if they can even resign Felton.

I disagree with this point as well. Going back to my first point, Felton's days in Charlotte shows that he's comfortable in a slow paced offense. Miller was never really comfortable in that type of team. Felton is also a better shooter and defender than Miller, which is needed on a team that lacks shooters.

The only real advantage Miller has over Felton is as a distributor.
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Old 06-24-2011, 06:06 PM   #34
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Default Re: TRADE! Raymond Felton to Blazers, Rudy Fernandez to Mavs, Andre Miller to Nuggets

Portland got a really shitty deal there. Losing Fernandez and trading for an inferior PG. I guess Felton fits a little better, but he's just plain worse otherwise.
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:23 PM   #35
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1. Rudy Fernandez was trash for us. No loss there.
2. Felton was brought to Portland because the front office is forcing Nate McMillan to increase the pace of his offense which is a great thing since Brandon Roy won't be starting anymore
3. There's no way this Nuggets team is a 47 win team. They have good defenders but average on the offensive end outside J.R. Smith's shooting. They'll be an 8 seed at best if they keep this roster. Nene is their only offensive post option on the entire team. That's horrible!
4. Nolan Smith is going to be a good point guard & I think will be starting in a couple years. He's a very smart & saavy point from what I saw of him in Duke & he was a 4 year college player which means he's fundamentally sound & won't make many stupid mistakes.
5. It would've been dumb IMO to take Faried in the draft. He's not going to do anything but defend and rebound & would barely get any minutes in Portland for years sitting behind Oden, Camby, Aldridge & Wallace while they would probably be paying him a couple million. Why not just get a guy like Chris Johnson for the minimum who will do the exact same thing as Faried??
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Old 06-25-2011, 01:49 AM   #36
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Felton will be a much better fit than Dre in Portland. That team is lacking another shooter, and tho Felton isnt a lights out shooter, he has good range and has been very consistent with his shot last season. Besides, it's always good to get younger.
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:53 AM   #37
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Replacement for Stevenson then.
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Old 06-26-2011, 04:48 AM   #38
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Illegal draft of Tanguy Ngumbo complicate the trade and the NBA is trying to figure it out. The oversight of Tanguy's age is said to be the Mavs fault, so the Blazers and Nuggets won't be penalized. The article also says "It is unknown what Portland stands to receive in the trade, or whether there will be any compensation," so maybe we get something else in the trade? I will laugh so hard if the Mavs have to give Rudy back (mostly due to how Rudy would respond). Maybe we if this is the case, we can just trade him back for a future pick


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Old 06-26-2011, 11:55 AM   #39
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That complication is unrelated to this trade. It was a separate deal between Portland and Minnesota. Minny's FO can't even use google.
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Old 06-26-2011, 01:20 PM   #40
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Felton
Roy
Wallace
Aldridge
Oden

wes matthews
Batum
Camby

Such an awesome team

All hinges on Roy. If he can reach 75% of what he used to be, that team will have a legit chance to make noise in the playoffs and perhaps challenge to make the Finals.

Oden isn't make or break. With him they are of course better, but they can find ways to win without him.

All about Roy in my opinion.
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Old 06-26-2011, 02:54 PM   #41
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That complication is unrelated to this trade. It was a separate deal between Portland and Minnesota. Minny's FO can't even use google.

You are right, I misread it a bit. So, maybe we get something from the Timberwolves
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:16 PM   #42
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All hinges on Roy. If he can reach 75% of what he used to be, that team will have a legit chance to make noise in the playoffs and perhaps challenge to make the Finals.

Oden isn't make or break. With him they are of course better, but they can find ways to win without him.

All about Roy in my opinion.

I don't see how its all about Roy when he's going to be the back up combo guard. Wes Matthews is going to start & is pretty good all around offensively besides being a play maker. It is on Oden to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, then he'll be one of the most dominant big guys in the NBA next season and will take a lot of pressure off Aldridge & Camby with rebounds, blocks & getting easy put backs. Teams won't be able to double Aldridge with Oden lurking on the other block of the post & Felton & Matthews outside.
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:13 PM   #43
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Wes Matthews is going to start & is pretty good all around offensively

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There's no way this Nuggets team is a 47 win team. They have good defenders but average on the offensive end outside J.R. Smith's shooting

This kinda made me lol. Talking about the Nuggets everyone's average offensively. Wes Matthews however is pretty good all around

Just bored and nitpicking.
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:15 AM   #44
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I don't see how its all about Roy when he's going to be the back up combo guard. Wes Matthews is going to start & is pretty good all around offensively besides being a play maker. It is on Oden to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, then he'll be one of the most dominant big guys in the NBA next season and will take a lot of pressure off Aldridge & Camby with rebounds, blocks & getting easy put backs. Teams won't be able to double Aldridge with Oden lurking on the other block of the post & Felton & Matthews outside.

Because I don't think that is good enough to win it all without Roy at close to 80%.

If everything happens above and Roy is 75% or so then I think that team has a legit shot at the title. Without that, I think they are very good, but would have no chance to win it all.
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:08 AM   #45
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MIller wants to play and wants to start. He's had issues with lost of teammates over him wanting/needing the ball, for good or bad. If they brought him in to be the starter, then yes, he can mentor Ty. If they brought him in as a backup, not only will he not mentor, he's probably going to be a problem in the locker room.
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