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Old 07-06-2011, 01:03 AM   #16
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Default Re: Which is more realistic ?:: Howard to celtics or Howard to the lakers.

Lakers. They can get Howard via trade or via free agency. Boston is a long shot in free agency and can't get him in a trade.


(Awaiting somebody to tell me the Lakers can't get him in free agency).
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:05 AM   #17
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With a Melo/Stat/Howard front court, you don't need role players.

Only one of them would be a productive player. It'd make Berri happy tho since he could write 500 articles on how overrated Melo/Stat are.
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:06 AM   #18
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Lakers. They can get Howard via trade or via free agency. Boston is a long shot in free agency and can't get him in a trade.


(Awaiting somebody to tell me the Lakers can't get him in free agency).
yeah, cause they are gonna not bother giving QO's to bynum or odom cause howard can and will only go there?
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yeah, cause they are gonna not bother giving QO's to bynum or odom cause howard can and will only go there?

They would only let the two go if they got a guarantee from Howard's camp that he would go there (yes, it's tampering, no they wouldn't get caught). The Heat tampered with LeBron, Wade and Bosh (Riley did). The NBA (DAVID STERN) would let it go.
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They would only let the two go if they got a guarantee from Howard's camp that he would go there (yes, it's tampering, no they wouldn't get caught). The Heat tampered with LeBron, Wade and Bosh (Riley did). The NBA (DAVID STERN) would let it go.

Im pretty sure we tampered to get Gasol too Lakers get it done!
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Old 07-06-2011, 06:02 AM   #21
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Default Re: Which is more realistic ?:: Howard to celtics or Howard to the lakers.

I see him signing with boston rather than lakers just because we have more young talent to put around him. Beside from Kobe and Odom the rest of their roster is average at best
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:33 PM   #22
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Where have I seen that logic used before...
Just because LeBron/Wade/Bosh didn't win it all doesn't mean it doesn't work. Hell they were two wins away from a ring. Besides it's not hard to add a decent SG (Shumpert and Landry) and PG (re-sign Billups?). Consider how amazing Dwight made the Magic, he's one of the most dominant players in the NBA and if he actually had two other superstars he wouldn't even need to concentrate on scoring too much. Dwight equals the perfect fit next to Amar'e and Melo. Both struggle with defense and rebounding, two areas where he thrives. Also, if they hire Phil Jackson, that would be three players who can post up which is perfect for the triangle.
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Lakers. They can get Howard via trade or via free agency. Boston is a long shot in free agency and can't get him in a trade.


Plus, Magic aint trading the best Center in the league now on another East conteding team, that would be suicide for them. Maybe Miami has the chance via trade if they can get LeBron & Bosh in return. I just don't see Magic trading Dwight just For Bron straight up.
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kg,ray,green,jermaine
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orlando gets rid of all the bad contracts and gets a young player in green and the celtics get a new franchise player in dwight and kg and allen who will be bought out go back to the celtics
but the celtics could also wait for offseason if orlando doesn't trade dwight earlier so they don't have to take on turko and arenas
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orlando gets rid of all the bad contracts and gets a young player in green and the celtics get a new franchise player in dwight and kg and allen who will be bought out go back to the celtics
but the celtics could also wait for offseason if orlando doesn't trade dwight earlier so they don't have to take on turko and arenas


Magic aint trading Dwight for a bunch of oldies plus a young garbage in J. Green.

Miami and Lakers' assets is way way better than what Cs have now which can easily make them(Magic) an instant contender right away after trading Dwight.

Dwight is the only franchise player worthy in 2013 FA if I'm not mistaken, If that trade push through, Magic will be rebuilding back again to zero because they can't rely on J. Green because the dude do suck big time.

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Magic aint trading Dwight for a bunch of oldies plus a young garbage in J. Green.

Miami and Lakers' assets is way way better than what Cs have now which can easily make them(Magic) an instant contender right away after trading Dwight.

Dwight is the only franchise player worthy in 2013 FA if I'm not mistaken, If that trade push through, Magic will be rebuilding back again to zero because they can't rely on J. Green because the dude do suck big time.
how are bynum and gasol better assets than getting rid of turko and arenas and really rebuilding maybe even getting a high pick in the draft
if they take bynum and gasol one is old and can't lead a team the other is always injured and even if he plays he is heavily overpaid with that core the magic will stay mediocre for another few year
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how are bynum and gasol better assets than getting rid of turko and arenas and really rebuilding maybe even getting a high pick in the draft
if they take bynum and gasol one is old and can't lead a team the other is always injured and even if he plays he is heavily overpaid with that core the magic will stay mediocre for another few year


That's exactly the point why Magic aint going to make the trade, Why would they go back rebuilding back again from scratch wer they can trade Dwight+Arenas+Hedo on the Lakers or Heat (LeBron + Bosh) and be instant contender again? And I don't see Magic trading Dwight for only Gasol and Bynum, maybe add Artest or Odom in the mix and it'll be good and it's still a better choice in the long run for the Magic compared to what you propose.

With these financial issues happening in the NBA now, I don't think Magic can afford to rebuild back again from scratch and be a lottery team once again.

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That's exactly the point why Magic aint going to make the trade, Why would they go back rebuilding back again from scratch wer they can trade Dwight+Arenas+Hedo on the Lakers or Heat (LeBron + Bosh) and be instant contender again? And I don't see Magic trading Dwight for only Gasol and Bynum, maybe add Artest or Odom in the mix and it'll be good and it's still a better choice in the long run for the Magic compared to what you propose.
lebron and bosh or only lebron for dwight won't happen
but don't you think that rebuilding from the scratch is better than being decent for a few years sooner or later they have to rebuild
and lets say they trade dwight this winter than they finish with a bad record get a good pick in 2012 draft get a franchise player like harrison barnes or anthony davis and they have enough cap space for the summer of 2012 and if they don't find the right player that summer they can wait till 2013 and sign another star
of course that would be the perfect scenario
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lebron and bosh or only lebron for dwight won't happen


I'm not sure about that one, but IMO that trade would be better for both team Iespecially for Miami

Anyway, That's a good idea there, but if I were to choose, I'll pick the Miami trade(LeBron + Bosh) or Lakers. It's good to rebuild your team having veteran proven players in Odom and Gasol who can still play maybe 4 more decent years compare to KG and JO who might have 1 more year left on their tank plus the fact that Magic have some decent assets also to trade for another franchise player with Bynum(contract expire 2013 also if I'm not mistaken) on the mix.
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