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Old 07-10-2011, 03:54 PM   #1
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What does ISH think?
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Old 07-10-2011, 03:54 PM   #2
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Hell yes they are.
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Old 07-10-2011, 03:57 PM   #3
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this is a stupid question, of course they are 2 different players
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Pathetic. Instead of trying to prove your point via actual video, you resort to asking a bunch perception-led idiots for the answer.

Way to wave the white flag.
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Old 07-10-2011, 03:59 PM   #5
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Pathetic. Instead of trying to prove your point via actual video, you resort to asking a bunch perception-led idiots for the answer.

Way to wave the white flag.

Perception-led idiots? EVERYONE thinks they're defended differently. Do you actually watch basketball?

It comes down to this: Most teams would rather see Kobe have to put the ball on the floor and finish in the paint. With LeBron, they would rather keep him out of the paint.
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Pathetic. Instead of trying to prove your point via actual video, you resort to asking a bunch perception-led idiots for the answer.

Way to wave the white flag.

If anyone doesn't know by now, this thread was dedicated to the vicious LeBron groupie above. He's one of the very few on this planet that don't think they are.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:01 PM   #7
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

I dont understand the question.
Do you mean are they defended differently in general? or are their jumpshots defended differently?
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EVERYONE thinks they're defended differently.

It doesn't matter what people THINK, what matters is what's actually happening on the court.
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I dont understand the question.
Do you mean are they defended differently in general? or are their jumpshots defended differently?

Strictly off jumpshooting. Are they given the same airspace, etc?
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It doesn't matter what people THINK, what matters is what's actually happening on the court.

Okay, everyone knows they're defended differently.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:04 PM   #11
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Differently in which way exactly?

I think all premier perimeter players get some of the same looks defensively, but there's also different ways to approach them, and actually defend them.

For instance.

With Wade you want to play under the screen, not over. You want to get him away from the play as much as possible and to do that you have to force the ball out of his hands (easier said than done of course) outside the 3pt line.

Bron is a bit more complicated because he's so willing to pass the ball. But in a way it makes it easier for the defender (although not the defense itself). With Bron you play over the screen and stack up the middle as much as possible with players ready to rotate and fill the lanes.

There's also something vastly different with both Bron and Wade then there is with Kobe.

Unlike Kobe, Bron nor Wade come off curls and screens like Kobe does. That is what makes Kobe more dangerous than them. He can come off a screen and pop it in your eye from just about anywhere. Wade comes off a screen and he thinks penetrate first (not that it's a bad thing), Bron comes off the screen and while he may think penetrate he's also thinking give and go (also not a bad thing). But you def prepare differently for either of them.
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Strictly off jumpshooting. Are they given the same airspace, etc?

Hell naw.

YOu have to play Kobe as close as possible.

You can give Bron and Wade room since they're more likely to penetrate or pass.

Kobe will kill you with the j.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:07 PM   #13
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Hell naw.

YOu have to play Kobe as close as possible.

You can give Bron and Wade room since they're more likely to penetrate or pass.

Kobe will kill you with the j.

Still waiting for a poster, other than Indian Guy, to concede differently.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:08 PM   #14
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

OK. I see the question now. The following is fact and anyone who disagrees is a lesser human being. Much depends, of course, on the type of defender on each player, but, in general...

Lebron is like a younger Kobe who is most dominant by taking it hard to the hole. His jumper is presently mediocre. He is best defended by backing off a bit and forcing him to chuck.

Kobe, on the other hand, has lost a step and cannot get to the hole very easily. However, he can hit from anywhere. He is best defended by getting into his jersey. Force him to put in on the floor. If he gets anywhere near the hole, you can get some weakside or post help.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:11 PM   #15
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Hell naw.

YOu have to play Kobe as close as possible.

You can give Bron and Wade room since they're more likely to penetrate or pass.

Kobe will kill you with the j.
Pretty much, although Wade does take and make the mid-range jumper in curls. I remember a criticism LeBron use to have was his inability to use a screen. He is definitely the clear cut worst of the three at moving and playing without the ball.
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