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Old 07-14-2011, 03:33 PM   #1
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Default 76ers deal at $280M, Forbes value them at $330M

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/32/...rs_321387.html
http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=7988
I'm just sayin... the INDEPENDENT Forbes certainly got their team's value wrong.

I wonder if they got something wrong too... hmmm
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/7/6...-profitability
I hope this closes the book on owners selling teams for a profit. They took a $50M hit according to the INDEPENDENT Forbes
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:54 PM   #2
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Default Re: 76ers deal at $280M, Forbes value them at $330M

I thought the guy/group bought 90% of the team (and left the 10% to the old ownership). Which based on that value would $297 million, so I wouldn't be surprised if the lockout lowered the team's value and the economy made the owner lower his price.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:55 PM   #3
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Default Re: 76ers deal at $280M, Forbes value them at $330M

Forbes continually gets numbers wrong... and that's really what the website is about. So i wouldn't trust a team's value assessed by forbes.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:07 PM   #4
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Default Re: 76ers deal at $280M, Forbes value them at $330M

It also says the deal doesn't include the Stadium ($73M), which Forbes included in their value estimate of the team. Had the Stadium been included, the price would probably have been right around $330M.

Also, it states the team was purchased for $125M in 1996, and valued at $330M in 2011. That's a $205M profit over 15 years, or ~13.5M a year. Obviously that number needs to be adjusted for inflation, but it shows that owning the 76ers over the past 15 years was a profitable investment.
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Default Re: 76ers deal at $280M, Forbes value them at $330M

The reason why the guy didn't purchase the stadium leaves a lot of dust unsettled. I mean he's going to have to pay to rent that place now... he might have intentions of moving, who knows at this point.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:00 PM   #6
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The reason why the guy didn't purchase the stadium leaves a lot of dust unsettled. I mean he's going to have to pay to rent that place now... he might have intentions of moving, who knows at this point.
I thought about that too, but I read as of right now there are zero plans to move the team. Moving a historic team like the 76ers could end up being worse than the whole Sonics thing.
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Default Re: 76ers deal at $280M, Forbes value them at $330M

So basically this new guy paid $20 million more than they were actually worth minus the stadium, and that was only for 90% of the team. Wow Forbes really undervalued them alot.

I wonder how many other teams are undervalued.
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Default Re: 76ers deal at $280M, Forbes value them at $330M

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I thought about that too, but I read as of right now there are zero plans to move the team. Moving a historic team like the 76ers could end up being worse than the whole Sonics thing.

philly fans would make a big deal out of it.. it can't happen.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:15 PM   #9
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philly fans would make a big deal out of it.. it can't happen.

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Old 07-14-2011, 08:53 PM   #10
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Default Re: 76ers deal at $280M, Forbes value them at $330M

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I thought about that too, but I read as of right now there are zero plans to move the team. Moving a historic team like the 76ers could end up being worse than the whole Sonics thing.

Worse for Sixers fans maybe. Sonics were only in seattle 4 years later than the sixers were in philly.

It's all a matter of perspective. East coast people don't care about Seattle. West coast people don't care about Philadelphia.

So it goes...
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:36 PM   #11
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The reason why the guy didn't purchase the stadium leaves a lot of dust unsettled. I mean he's going to have to pay to rent that place now... he might have intentions of moving, who knows at this point.
He didn't purchase it because the same guy that used to own the Sixers still owns the Flyers, who play in that building. Ed Snider wasn't going to sell the arena with the Sixers and then have to find a new home for his Flyers.

Part of the sale was that the Sixers have to stay in the same arena for the foreseeable future.
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:14 PM   #12
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It also says the deal doesn't include the Stadium ($73M), which Forbes included in their value estimate of the team. Had the Stadium been included, the price would probably have been right around $330M.

Also, it states the team was purchased for $125M in 1996, and valued at $330M in 2011. That's a $205M profit over 15 years, or ~13.5M a year. Obviously that number needs to be adjusted for inflation, but it shows that owning the 76ers over the past 15 years was a profitable investment.
The fact that the team was purchased for 125m and sold for almost double. I don't see the problem.
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:40 AM   #13
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The reason why the guy didn't purchase the stadium leaves a lot of dust unsettled. I mean he's going to have to pay to rent that place now... he might have intentions of moving, who knows at this point.

The Sixers aren't going nowhere.
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Default Re: 76ers deal at $280M, Forbes value them at $330M

Yeah the Sixers shouldn't go anywhere. They're in a reasonably sized market and they've managed to stay off the red and actually made some money. It's just these past few years when the team lost its identity when they traded away AI and went with Brand.

What would have happened if they just blew up the team when AI left? Instead they tried to compete (which is the right thing IMO) and after a few years they still don't know where they are going.
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http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/32/...rs_321387.html
http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=7988
I'm just sayin... the INDEPENDENT Forbes certainly got their team's value wrong.

I wonder if they got something wrong too... hmmm
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/7/6...-profitability
I hope this closes the book on owners selling teams for a profit. They took a $50M hit according to the INDEPENDENT Forbes


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