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Old 09-01-2011, 04:07 PM   #31
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Default Re: The NBA Statistics of the Great Vassilis Spanoulis: Europe's best player

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Wilkins' team won the Euroleague final in 1996. In a game that was rigged by the refs. Google Barcelona Panathinaikos Euroleague 1996 shot clock violation Stank Vrankovic. Wilkins I believe was MVP of final four of Euroleague....again one that was rigged by the refs for his team to win.
Okay, here are the links I found:
http://www.euroleague.net/history/50...609/paris-1996

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In the breathtaking final, Panathinaikos beat Barcelona by a single point, 67-66, on a last-minute blocked shot by Stojko Vrankovic to secure the first title for a Greek team.

This link says it was shady for both sides, in fact, points out that Barca got more benefits of the bad refereeing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Eu...league_history

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1996 proved to be one of the most controversial finals to any European club competition. Greek side Panathinaikos pulled off the coup of the season by signing former NBA star Dominique Wilkins, but it was Croatian center Stojko Vranković who decided the Final Four.

The 218 cm ran the length of the court to block Barcelona's Jose Montero's lay-up attempt in the last second to seal the win for Panathinaikos. Although the block looked like a possible goal-tend, no call was made and Panathinaikos were the first ever Greek champions. Although this would seem to indicate that a goal tend call should have been made, the situation is less than clear. In fact, numerous violations occurred in the last seconds of the game, none of which were called by the referees. Panathinaikos had ball possession and with 8 seconds remaining in the game clock, Panathinaikos guard Panagiotis Giannakis lost the ball (possibly after being fouled, though no call was made). As players from both teams struggled to gain possession, the shot clock was renewed illegally (since the ball was in possession of neither team, a shot clock violation should have been called against Panathinaikos, meaning that the game should stop and resume with an inbound pass for Barcelona). The situation was further exacerbated by the fact that the game clock stuck at 4.9 seconds for about 6 seconds, thus allowing Barcelona nearly ten seconds of play.


I found some forum dorks arguing about it. Here's the most rational response:
http://forums.interbasket.net/f11/wh...the-1996-9337/

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Q: Who should have won the 96 Euroleague finals?

A: Two answers.

By the book: Propably panathinaikos. When the clock stops, the game should stop. Barca shoud get the ball for a 4.9 sec offense. Thats what they actually did, since after the block, barca resets the offense , the clock is still stopped, and they have around 5 sec to carry the offense.

Subjective opinion: Panathinaikos. The last 2 minutes of the game are probably the worst officiating by referees in a euroleague final.


That's all I have time for right now.

Basically, you're still a liar.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:07 PM   #32
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It was NOT a Euroleague MVP award. There was no Euroleague MVP award until 2005.

Sabonis won an equivalent of a monthly MVP award.

And in fact, he did not even qualify to be a candidate under the MVP rules of the league.

So it is a pure lie for Droid101 to keep claiming he was "MVP of the Euroleague" when he actually was not.

It's like saying an NBA player of the month was "the NBA MVP". It's a lie and the guy just keeps saying it over and over.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:14 PM   #33
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Default Re: The NBA Statistics of the Great Vassilis Spanoulis: Europe's best player

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I'm open minded.
96 was quite a debacle:

http://forums.interbasket.net/f11/wh...996-9337/#post

Thank you. It is nice for someone to deal with reality rather than idiots throwing around Wikipedia articles that they probably wrote themselves.
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Okay, here are the links I found:
http://www.euroleague.net/history/50...609/paris-1996



This link says it was shady for both sides, in fact, points out that Barca got more benefits of the bad refereeing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Eu...league_history




I found some forum dorks arguing about it. Here's the most rational response:
http://forums.interbasket.net/f11/wh...the-1996-9337/




That's all I have time for right now.

Basically, you're still a liar.

That's it. I will just let the mods and site owner sort you out. I am no longer going to accept telling the truth here and being called a liar for it, by people that are actually the ones lying.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:15 PM   #35
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:16 PM   #36
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Not sure why euroleague bothers really, his arguing goes nowhere as he is comparing apples with oranges and reacts to the yanks, who 99% of them rely on wikipedia and really have no knowledge of euro bball.
You cant compare players and stats. 2 different games.
The original post is just pathetic. His game didnt translate.

Stephen Jackson came to Australia and was so bad that he got cut. The won a title with the Spurs as a key starter.

BBall is just different in the USA, it suits some players and not others.
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Almost as funny as a huge scrub like Derrick Rose winning the NBA MVP.
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Not sure why euroleague bothers really, his arguing goes nowhere as he is comparing apples with oranges and reacts to the yanks, who 99% of them rely on wikipedia and really have no knowledge of euro bball.
You cant compare players and stats. 2 different games.
The original post is just pathetic. His game didnt translate.

Stephen Jackson came to Australia and was so bad that he got cut. The won a title with the Spurs as a key starter.

BBall is just different in the USA, it suits some players and not others.

But why do these idiots have to call me a liar and a troll for simply pointing something like that out?

I know most of it is because of Grinder and all the crap he pulls here to make me and other European basketball fans look bad. But damn, the group think in this forum is pathetic.
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Default Re: The NBA Statistics of the Great Vassilis Spanoulis: Europe's best player

Spanoulis WAH I'm as good as T-Mac
http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets/...es-1536296.php
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He never said that. Notice how not even once do they even quote him.
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He never said that. Notice how not even once do they even quote him.
LOL look it up on google it's been reported by numerous different sources. You mad?
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Not sure why euroleague bothers really, his arguing goes nowhere as he is comparing apples with oranges and reacts to the yanks, who 99% of them rely on wikipedia and really have no knowledge of euro bball.
You cant compare players and stats. 2 different games.
The original post is just pathetic. His game didnt translate.

Stephen Jackson came to Australia and was so bad that he got cut. The won a title with the Spurs as a key starter.

BBall is just different in the USA, it suits some players and not others.
He was a journeyman who got cut from everywhere until he put serious work into his game. Not comparable situations, Spanoulis came here on top of his game in his prime
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LOL look it up on google it's been reported by numerous different sources. You mad?

Where do all these morons come from?
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Where do all these morons come from?
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Almost as funny as a huge scrub like Derrick Rose winning the NBA MVP.
Do you mean the man who destroyed every single team he came up against in the world championships, the same Derek Rose who apart from Dirk and Pau could switch to any other country in the world and instantly become their best player?
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