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Old 06-24-2011, 07:17 PM   #1
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Default Michael Jordan or Larry Bird

This is not a player vs player comparison. This is more like WHO'S CONSIDERED THE BETTER CLOSER?

And by that I mean everything that means clutch
- Better in the last 5 minutes of the game
- Buzzer beaters
- better at closing out games
- draining those FT in crucial times
etc etc etc

So who is considered the best closer/clutch player in Nba History?

BTW, does anybody have a count of how many buzzer beaters Michael Jordan and Larry Bird have in total?
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Old 06-24-2011, 07:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: Michael Jordan or Larry Bird

Bird
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Old 06-24-2011, 07:31 PM   #3
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Default Re: Michael Jordan or Larry Bird

I would rank them equal ...

Jordan / Bird / West are the most clutch players of all-time
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Old 06-24-2011, 07:37 PM   #4
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Default Re: Michael Jordan or Larry Bird

They are about equal as GOAT closers. Maybe Bird by a tiny margin, because he had better range, plus taller (easier to get shot against anyone) and better passer (draw defense and pass to wide open teammate for easy points).

Few examples:

The only triple clutch 3PT in NBA history
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK0uS-Iv7jk

Two GOAT perimeter defenders in Pippen and Jordan were all over Bird and he still easily drained game winner over them, nothing but net:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoGmMx8Ejrw
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Old 06-24-2011, 07:37 PM   #5
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Default Re: Michael Jordan or Larry Bird

It's like choosing between a Lambo and a Ferrari.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:06 PM   #6
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Default Re: Michael Jordan or Larry Bird

Individual Player: MJ
Team Player: Bird

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Old 06-24-2011, 10:07 PM   #7
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lol Larry Bird easily.

This is like asking who do you wanna shoot, Dirk or Tony Allen
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:13 PM   #8
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It's like choosing between a Lambo and a Ferrari.
It's closer than that, you dirty plebeian.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:25 PM   #9
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Roughly equal offensively, but Jordan was more clutch defensively. MJ made way more clutch defensive plays than Bird did (not that Bird wasn't clutch defensively as well, because he was).

Offensively, MJ was more able to take over the final 4-6 minutes of a game on his own and pull out a win more consistently than Bird. Again, not that Bird didn't do this, because he certainly did do so better than all but 1-2 players in history.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:31 PM   #10
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Default Re: Michael Jordan or Larry Bird

As Loki adequately stated above:
Bird was equal to MJ offensively.
But MJ was really completely dominant defensively. Bird not in that convo.

I will say this... Bird was 2 steps ahead of everyone else, mentally, thru the course of an offensive set (and defensively too, but his feet were not fast enuf). And I mean 2 steps ahead of MJ, too. No one, except MAYBE Magic, was at that same level... the game within the game, if you know what I mean.

Easily the greatest SF of all time.

EDIT: oops. my bad. With respect to closing...there is no one I feared more that Larry Bird. While an insanely clutch shooter (from anywhere), he also had that knack to make plays in every way...the key pass...the key deflection..etc.
As a Laker fan, I never wanted Bird to have the ball with the final possession.

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Old 06-24-2011, 10:33 PM   #11
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They are both very clutch. But there are some differences.

Jordan creates his own shot better and can shoot anywhere from the field. Jordan could run down the floor and shoot it in your face in about 10 seconds. He did it against the Lakers in 91, and Bird didn't that like Jordan.

But I trust Bird to set up his teammates more. While MJ could do the same, but Bird is better at it. Jordan probably played better in the 5 minutes of the game with his epic scoring talent. And Bird is better at doing little things and passing it to his teammates, and finding the right person. Plus Bird had more and better scoring options than Jordan did. Bird is more of a team player, but Bird could score a lot if he tried harder and focus scoring. But Jordan was the better scorer in the last 5 minutes I'm guessing.

Bird has more crazy shots with game winners though. It's amazing how those shots will go in. Jordan may have more game winners with possibly better efficiency, but I dunno. Bird's are more entertaining though.

But you can't really judge them accurately unless you see them play. I'm guessing a lot of people haven't. Plus we don't really have stats to go by. So, you would have to watch them play more often than not.

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Old 06-24-2011, 10:35 PM   #12
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Kobe is the most clutch player alltime



























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Old 06-25-2011, 01:51 AM   #13
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Default Re: Michael Jordan or Larry Bird

the better closer is Michael Jordan..

thats the whole reason he is goat because he would come thru in the clutch time after time.

bird was great...


but Mj>Bird
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:31 AM   #14
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Bird is the Word.
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:37 AM   #15
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Default Re: Michael Jordan or Larry Bird

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Originally Posted by kaiiu
lol Larry Bird easily.

This is like asking who do you wanna shoot, Dirk or Tony Allen
Why you hate Jordan so much?
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