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Old 07-10-2015, 12:48 PM   #1
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What are people's opinions on this?
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Old 07-10-2015, 12:55 PM   #2
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It is essential.

Look at Muslim states.

Now, people will think "Christians wouldn't be that bad, it's not the Middle Ages anymore, when they killed millions..."

Put any religious group in power, and let them be lawfully intolerant of other religions, and you will get chaos.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:01 PM   #3
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What are people's opinions on this?

Its way overblown.

I dont want the US to be controlled by the Catholic Church, but at the same time, I recognize there are positive values in Christianity.

But being 'offended' because the Ten Commandments are on government property just screams 'you're a little bitch and annoying as ****'.
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It should be done, but for some reason it isn't.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:07 PM   #6
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Its way overblown.

I dont want the US to be controlled by the Catholic Church, but at the same time, I recognize there are positive values in Christianity.

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Isn't America overwhelmingly Protestant?
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:14 PM   #7
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Sharia law>>>>the Constitution.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:21 PM   #8
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Well the fact is, political ideologies operate exactly like religions. Liberalism in particular. That's the great irony.

So if we separate "church" from state, then we have to separate moralism in general from state. Because if religious morals are arbitrary, then certainly left wing moralist ideals are as well.

The left has a particular worldview they want to force onto everyone in America. It's really not that different from what Islam tries to do, just with a different doctrine.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:21 PM   #9
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Isn't America overwhelmingly Protestant?

Roman Catholics make up the largest single Christian denomination at like 22% of the population, give or take a couple points. Protestants make up the other 48% of what would be considered "Christian" but its spread out over a bunch of different faiths (Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists, Orthodox, Catholics not in communion with Rome, etc).

Strangely enough, the single biggest chunk of the pie...25% of the country claims no religion whatsoever.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:29 PM   #10
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Fvck your religion.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:36 PM   #11
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Strangely enough, the single biggest chunk of the pie...25% of the country claims no religion whatsoever.

Gays and Lesbians are really starting to run sh!t arent they
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:47 PM   #12
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Its way overblown.

I dont want the US to be controlled by the Catholic Church, but at the same time, I recognize there are positive values in Christianity.

But being 'offended' because the Ten Commandments are on government property just screams 'you're a little bitch and annoying as ****'.

It's natural to have people/politicans be influenced by those values. I don't think many would argue that is a bad thing. It is much different to have government sponsor a religion tho. Being offended by the ten commandments being posted at a government building is very reasonable imo when you have a representative democracy where all voters do not follow Christianity.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:39 PM   #13
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easier said than done

that should probably be the op's user title btw
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:48 PM   #14
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Well the fact is, political ideologies operate exactly like religions. Liberalism in particular. That's the great irony.

So if we separate "church" from state, then we have to separate moralism in general from state. Because if religious morals are arbitrary, then certainly left wing moralist ideals are as well.

The left has a particular worldview they want to force onto everyone in America. It's really not that different from what Islam tries to do, just with a different doctrine.

Does liberalism/progressivism involve following the teachings of bronze age sky fairies? Then it's not exactly like religion, not even close. Your rationale is laughable.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:55 PM   #15
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Well the fact is, political ideologies operate exactly like religions. Liberalism in particular. That's the great irony.

So if we separate "church" from state, then we have to separate moralism in general from state. Because if religious morals are arbitrary, then certainly left wing moralist ideals are as well.

The left has a particular worldview they want to force onto everyone in America. It's really not that different from what Islam tries to do, just with a different doctrine.
lol at liberalism in particular

religions are bad! political ideologies are bad in the same way! and the ones i hate are especially bad because i hate them so much! and the left! dont get me started on the left!

all morality is arbitrary. way to break new ground.
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