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Old 03-27-2017, 03:58 PM   #1
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A ketogenic diet accelerates neurodegeneration in mice with induced mitochondrial DNA toxicity in the forebrain

Abstract here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27639119

I know the study was conducted on mice, but still quite alarming, considering the keto trend. Tried it for several days myself, did not like it at all. Had the feeling of decreased brain power. Anyone else can relate?

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Old 03-27-2017, 04:02 PM   #2
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Old 03-27-2017, 04:09 PM   #3
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Well it's common knowledge that your brain requires glucose to function so I don't doubt it.
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Old 03-27-2017, 04:22 PM   #4
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Well it's common knowledge that your brain requires glucose to function so I don't doubt it.
I've watched an hour long presentation by some PhD specialized on keto diets, who claimed that ketones should be а good enough substitute for glucose as an energy carrier. From my experience it definitely did not feel like it.
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I've watched an hour long presentation by some PhD specialized on keto diets, who claimed that ketones should be а good enough substitute for glucose as an energy carrier. From my experience it definitely did not feel like it.

I've read and heard that ketones actually pack more of a punch in the energy department than gluclose does. It's just your body producing it is the problem and challenge.


I'm not pro keto or against it, but how long did you try it? As your body adjusts it's said that it can take literally weeks not even a couple of months to your body to fully adapt to producing ketones and getting itself off glucose. If you felt really bad especially in the beginning it probably has to do with that adjustment and if you still felt pretty bad weeks after it might have to do with your fat intake. You have to have at least around 75% fat intake so your body can use that as energy.

I tried it for almost a week and just couldn't handle the adjustment. My work requires a lot of physical labor and I just wasn't personally ready to feel sluggish like I was.

In the end what I have personally done is greatly reduce my sugar intake, Especially un-needed sugar. I try to stay away from bread and pasta as much as I can, especially no soda or sugary foods and junk. Just stick to sugar in fruits and veggies (no corn though).

In the end, I don't doubt intermediate fasting is healthy, and I don't doubt us eating as much sugar as we do is unhealthy because it defensively isn't. There was a recent study done that showed back in the 40s the average American had 15g of sugar daily, now that's up to 75g+ at least. One can of Pepsi or Mt. Dew covers almost all of that.

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Tried this for a few days a while back. Couldn't stand not having carbs.
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Tried this for a few days a while back. Couldn't stand not having carbs.
Won't work unless you do it for at least a few weeks. Those are always the hardest.
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Won't work unless you do it for at least a few weeks. Those are always the hardest.
Can't do it. Was made much harder by so many of the keto diet staples like eggs, avocado, beef, fish, poultry, all being so good with bread, rice, potatoes.
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Abstract here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27639119

I know the study was conducted on mice, but still quite alarming, considering the keto trend. Tried it for several days myself, did not like it at all. Had the feeling of decreased brain power. Anyone else can relate?
The headaches go away after about a week.

It's an amazing diet for losing weight as protein and fat satiate you better then anything else.

But, it's a diet...not a long term thing although it does help with epilepsy
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