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Old 09-15-2011, 09:05 AM   #61
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I will say that ONE thing that GT did that was good was to bring kid Goku back. Cause he's just a pimp, and just one of the best characters in any show when he's a kid. It almost... ALMOST..... makes up for Pan.

No just kidding. Pan is awful and I wish she'd go away.

Goten is a lot like Goku but i agree Goku as a naive lil kid is great
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:11 PM   #62
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i was watching the movie with broley last night on nicktoons damn the ending was wack. goku gets power from vageta punches broley in the stomach once right after that they are on a capsule heading home then the movie was over.
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:19 PM   #63
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Just finished Dragonball. Without skipping a beat, I moved right on to Z.

Can't wait for the Frieza saga.
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:52 PM   #64
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I feel the same way. GT could've been awesome but they just didn't know how to implement the ideas. Another thing that pissed me off was how every hero besides Goku was useless. Like how in the fight against Super Android 17, Vegeta, Goten, Trunks, Majuub (Who's supposed to be the 2nd strongest at this point and very powerful) and Gohan couldn't even lay a finger on him. But then Goku comes in and literally punches him halfway across the planet. So apparently Goku is 1,000,000x stronger than everyone else now. At least in DBZ, other characters had their time to shine. This was even more true in Dragonball where even guys like Yaijarobe were formidable fighters. Hell Tien was the strongest character in DB for a little while.

Oh yeah. I forgot to mention that. If Majuub made Baby (gay name) have a difficult time, it should be the same against Super Android 17. Miscalculation in power is terrible. What makes GT even worse is the fact that Vegeta knows about Goku's new transformation after the end of Baby, but didn't do anything about it until the Shenron saga.
By the time Vegeta turned SS4, it became pretty much too late for him to kill any main enemy without the help of Goku.

Another terrible thing is how Baby made it easy to get into a Saiyan skin and control them.
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:57 PM   #65
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I feel the same way. GT could've been awesome but they just didn't know how to implement the ideas. Another thing that pissed me off was how every hero besides Goku was useless. Like how in the fight against Super Android 17, Vegeta, Goten, Trunks, Majuub (Who's supposed to be the 2nd strongest at this point and very powerful) and Gohan couldn't even lay a finger on him. But then Goku comes in and literally punches him halfway across the planet. So apparently Goku is 1,000,000x stronger than everyone else now. At least in DBZ, other characters had their time to shine. This was even more true in Dragonball where even guys like Yaijarobe were formidable fighters. Hell Tien was the strongest character in DB for a little while.
Toriyama dicked Vegeta out of some victories. He hated Vegeta
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:07 PM   #66
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I dont hate GT because it was basically a luxury anyway. it was just extra, so ppl should enjoy it. Never watched alot of it but u can tell they tried to give it a dragonball adventure feel to it, but at the same time try to keep DBZ style fights and power.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:09 PM   #67
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Oh yeah that really made me angry how everyone except Goku and Uub decided to become a pansy and just quit fighting. Vegeta's life was fighting and training to become strong. Yes I know at the end of DBZ he acknowledged that Goku was better than him, but he still wanted to fight him and become stronger. He just finally accepted Goku as a true friend. They also nerfed Gohan pretty badly. They just forgot about his power up he got from the Elder Kai.

And it was pretty lame how Bebi could easily control the Saiyans. They would get a small ass cut and then get taken over

No kidding. Gohan couldn't even handle Baby's minions and required the help of Goten and Trunks.
As a determined and jealous Saiyan, GT should have shown Vegeta to be training and achieving SS4 during the Super Android Saga.

The Saiyans can't even see Baby coming. Apparently he must be really hard to detect.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:10 PM   #68
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Toriyama dicked Vegeta out of some victories. He hated Vegeta

But he didn't make Vegeta worthless, which is what GT did.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:13 PM   #69
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I dont hate GT because it was basically a luxury anyway. it was just extra, so ppl should enjoy it. Never watched alot of it but u can tell they tried to give it a dragonball adventure feel to it, but at the same time try to keep DBZ style fights and power.

They could have at least executed it better. That way they wouldn't get as much criticisms.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:24 PM   #70
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Yeah I don't think anyone believes GT was necessarily a bad idea. I was stoked for it. But like you said it just wasn't executed correctly. The concepts and villains were great they were just poorly written.

When GT was on Saturday Night Toonami like 4 or 5 years ago, I used to love it. Then when it got stupid I just used to watch Toonami for Yu Yu Hakusho. Especially when it got into the Chapter Black Saga. That shit was
Dark Tournament> Chapter Black doe. Get hip to Hunter X Hunter boiiiiiii. Made by Togashi to. Just as good and arguably better.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:25 PM   #71
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Yeah I don't think anyone believes GT was necessarily a bad idea. I was stoked for it. But like you said it just wasn't executed correctly. The concepts and villains were great they were just poorly written.

When GT was on Saturday Night Toonami like 4 or 5 years ago, I used to love it. Then when it got stupid I just used to watch Toonami for Yu Yu Hakusho. Especially when it got into the Chapter Black Saga. That shit was

The best 3 ideas: Goku turning into a child again, opening of Hell to allow two Androids to combine, and the 7 evil Shenrons. Such great potential. They could have at least allowed 1 huge DB/DBZ fan to look at it and critique before sending it out to the world.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:40 PM   #72
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As far as the fights go yeah Dark Tournament was better. But for the sheer deepness and mindf*ck, Chapter Black takes the cake.

I watched a Hunter X Hunter vid the other day. I think I'm gonna start watching it
Iight cool. Sometimes he gets lazy as fvck wit the art doe. It starts out slow but picks up soon. The anime is better than the manga to.Yorkshin arc was the GOAT arc in any manga.
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Old 09-15-2011, 05:29 PM   #73
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Here is where I found most (few videos MAY not work) of the Dragonball episodes:
Not sure if you prefer Dubbed...
http://www.watch-dragonball.com/

The only problem I have with that site is that it doesn't have the uncut version of the Sayian Saga, like DBZ Oasis has. I haven't had a problem with DBZ Oasis so far.
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Old 09-15-2011, 05:46 PM   #74
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The problems began at the end of DBZ, the power levels just got too insanely high, and they seemed to just use whatever idea they came up with. Goku and Vegeta fused, Gohan got his power unlocked (for the second time), Trunks and Goten fuse.... it was a mess. I really don't think there was much recovery from that point.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:16 PM   #75
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i told my friends that i couldnt go out to the bars with them tonight because i had to study for a math test tomorrow. so i pregamed with them and came back here, and instead of studying i ended up watching this sh*t.

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