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Old 09-12-2012, 05:15 AM   #1366
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Do you guys think i'm better off keeping Spiller and trading Chris Johnson instead? Got Ryan Matthews on my bench as my current #3 RB also. Currently starting Stevan Ridley and Chris Johnson.
yes absolutely although id hold on selling chris johnson until he has a quality game. until then he should be firmly planted on your bench.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:55 AM   #1367
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So I picked up Ogletree, Cobb and Mercedes Lewis. Apparently the guy who dropped Spiller picked him up again. I'm a little concerned about my RB depth though here it is

R. Rice
D. Martin
F. Jackson
R. Bush

What do you think? Can I survive with that at RB?
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:13 AM   #1368
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So I picked up Ogletree, Cobb and Mercedes Lewis. Apparently the guy who dropped Spiller picked him up again. I'm a little concerned about my RB depth though here it is

R. Rice
D. Martin
F. Jackson
R. Bush

What do you think? Can I survive with that at RB?
yes that is probably still better then most of your fellow owners RB situation. when i look around at all of these teams its glaring how thin/shallow the pool of RBs is this year. fjax thinks he'll be back by week 4, and while he may be optimistic, it's definitely a sign in the right direction. hopefully someone pops up on your waiver wire sooner then later, because you just need a little depth.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:52 PM   #1369
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Who should i play this week in my RB/WR Spot

Micheal Turner v Denver
Percy Harvin v Indy
Demaryius Thomas v Atlanta

Not a ppr leauge.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:03 PM   #1370
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Who should i play this week in my RB/WR Spot

Micheal Turner v Denver
Percy Harvin v Indy
Demaryius Thomas v Atlanta

Not a ppr leauge.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:35 PM   #1371
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Was thinking the same thing, really not feeling Turner this week or at all this season really. I'm not even sure why I picked him.

The 3 best RBs left at my pick were Turner Frank Gore and T-Rich. Figured Gore wouldn't get as many snaps and T-Rich had a shit schedule...

Man I hated having to pick him. I needed a rb though.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:48 PM   #1372
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Was thinking the same thing, really not feeling Turner this week or at all this season really. I'm not even sure why I picked him.

The 3 best RBs left at my pick were Turner Frank Gore and T-Rich. Figured Gore wouldn't get as many snaps and T-Rich had a shit schedule...

Man I hated having to pick him. I needed a rb though.
hindsight is 20/20 but should have went ridley/kevin smith/bradshaw if those 3 were available?

turner is dead and will offer very little of anything going forward.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:19 AM   #1373
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hindsight is 20/20 but should have went ridley/kevin smith/bradshaw if those 3 were available?

turner is dead and will offer very little of anything going forward.

Wound up taking Bradshaw with my next pick because of it being a snake draft but there wasn't alot of time between picks so I panicked and took Turner with like a second left before it auto picked.

Looking back now your 100% right I should have considered Ridley but it is what it is. Couldn't see myself trusting Kevin Smith to play a full season though.

Going to wait and see if Turner has a big game then try and trade him ASAP.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:22 AM   #1374
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Forgot I picked up Alfred Morris too.

Who would you start between him and Percy? I'm thinking of going Morris because it's against the Rams but its too hard to trust Shannahan.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:25 AM   #1375
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Wound up taking Bradshaw with my next pick because of it being a snake draft but there wasn't alot of time between picks so I panicked and took Turner with like a second left before it auto picked.

Looking back now your 100% right I should have considered Ridley but it is what it is. Couldn't see myself trusting Kevin Smith to play a full season though.

Going to wait and see if Turner has a big game then try and trade him ASAP.
Bradshaw was a nice pick, he's a great rb2 and in standard leagues could easily finish top 12. He's a touchdown monster and would not shock me if he finishes with 16 scores on the year. He looks ready for a career season.

I can understand the allure with Turner, on paper he seems like a good pick and what you're looking for..High powered offense, good line, he has pretty good job security and the Falcons lack a guy who has proven he can run between the tackles and pick up tough yards (Can Jacquizz be that guy?)..He's been an excellent goal line back for a while..But looking closer over the past 2 years he's really struggled in the 2nd of each season. He wears down quickly. Lacks any real burst, Falcons moving away from runnng and becoming an uptempo offense. The emergence of both Julio Jones and Matt Ryan, a shift in philosophy, a very talented young RB in Rodgers who fits their scheme, yadda yadda yadda..

Its wise to wait for him to have a good game and sell quickly although I'm not sure what you'll be able to get in return. Perhaps package him with another player and hope for the best.

Theres quite a few things I absolutely love about Kevin Smith. In no particular order, 1) his ADP (somewhere in that 75-80 range). 2) He's the starter in an offense that is incredibly RB friendly that it's nearly impossible not to produce top 12 #s on a weekly basis. 3) He's a very adept pass catcher making him absolute gold in PPR. Stafford loves checking down to him and not to mention having Megatron creates a lot of open lanes for him. The offense moves the ball so consistently and creates so many big plays that whatever RB they're using is getting a few redzone carries/targets every game.

So you combine all those 3 things you have great opportunity met with good skills and fantastic value (70-80 ADP) which is a recipe for fantasy success. Since you're drafting him as likely your 3rd RB you're getting RB1 production out of your flex which offers the lowest statistical output of any slot on your team. By getting that sort of production you're going to be nearly impossible to beat. The only concern with Kevin is obvious his durability but the same can be said for Arian Foster (not to that extent but every player is an injury risk). I love Kevin Smith this year and have no doubt that if he plays 12-14 games will finish top 15 at RB and say he does get hurt it's a risk I'm willing to take all day.

If you're in a league(s) where guys dont value Kevin Smith or are looking to sell high, run don't walk.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:25 AM   #1376
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Forgot I picked up Alfred Morris too.

Who would you start between him and Percy? I'm thinking of going Morris because it's against the Rams but its too hard to trust Shannahan.
Is it standard scoring? Then I'd trot out Morris as I'm predicting he scores another 2 TD's...he's almost a lock for at least 1.

PPR definitely Percy.
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Tough one again this week Romo vs Seahawks or Ryan vs Broncos? Also I subbed Jennings for Kenny Britt and I don't know who to put at flex; Ogletree, Cobb or Maclin

Or perhaps there's another option:
Sit Kenny Britt start either one of those 3 mentioned above and put Reggie Bush at flex?

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I wrote a long rant on why Chris Johnson is a massive bust..

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Here is my take on why I believe Chris Johnson is the biggest bust in recent fantasy football history. Let me preface this by saying I do own him in 2 leagues (I'm currently in 19). 1 of which he was auto-drafted and another draft where I panicked and selected him 10th overall.

I'd be very stunned if CJ tops 1000 yards rushing in 2012. I also think he will prove to be not just a disappointment but a bust of epic proportions.

Let's start with his most recent performance vs NE. 11 carries 4 yards, about as dismal of a performance as you're going to see in the NFL, especially when we're talking about a guy who once rushed for 2000 yards in a season. It'd be unfair to overreact to one historically bad performance as plenty of all time great players have thrown up relative duds, which is not all that uncommon. Unfortunately these types of historically bad performances have become the norm for CJ and I only see them becoming more frequent in the immediate future.

If we go back to 2011 CJ had 10 games where he rushed for under 60 yards in what turned out to be his worst statistical season (he finished as the 16th RB in our league) of his career. In only 4 games did he eclipse 100 yards rushing and only in 4 games did he surpass 15 points in our leaguge. Needless to say it was a horrible year for him. He played a full 17 week season which although sounds like its a good thing (he is durable), it's actually makes it uglier when you look at his per game metrics. He ranks around the 30th range in per game averages and efficiency. Obviously there are 32 starting RBs and bottom 5.

He had 4 games in 2011 where he showed flashes of "CJ2K". While those 4 games from a distance seemed promising and he showed glimpses when we get closer up they are little more than a mirage. The 4 teams he played where he topped 100 yards rushing were TB, CLE, BUF, CAR. Those 4 teams all ranked in the bottom 6 of yards and points allowed to opposing fantasy RBs. Those 4 teams had historically poor run defenses and out those 4 teams he only gets to face Buffalo in 2012.

Lets look at his recent games vs divisional opponents. This is a great indicator of expected production being that you can use a recent sample size and he will play nearly half of his season vs these 3 teams. Let's start with the best team and defense in the division Houston and look at his last 4 starts vs them (in order of most recent):

15 carries for 61 yards 4 catches 49 yards 0 TDs
(I'd like to provide some context that this was week 17 of last year, Texans had already locked up the division and were resting starters).
10 carries for 18 yards 6 catches 27 yards 0 TDs
7 carries 5 yards 2 catches 2 yards 0 TDs
24 carries 130 yards, 1 catch 7 yards 1 TD

VS INDY

14 carries for 34 yards, 3 catches for 17 yards 0 TDs
15 carries for 55 yards, 8 catches for 54 yards 0 TDs
22 carries for 111 yards, 6 catches for 68 yards 1 TD
20 carries for 39 yards, 6 catches 31 yards 0 TDs

VS JAX

15 carries for 56 yards, 0 catches 0 TDs
9 carries for 24 yards, 6 catches 25 yards 0 TDs
13 carries for 53 yards, 2 catches for 14 yards 0 TDs
26 carries for 111 yards, 2 catch 20 yards 1 TD

If we extrapolate these 12 games into a 16 game season they become:

871 rushing yards 4 TDs, 205 yards receiving. (this is what I project him to flirt with this season). This is also considering he plays a full 16 games.

Per game basis that is 54 rushing yards a game with 12 yards receiving.

In his last 12 divisional games only 3x does he crack 100, not once last year, and he only has 3 TDs in those 12 games, again not one last year. Only 4 times is he able to eclipse 60 rushing yards in those 12 games. 2011 he capitalized from playing 4 terrible defenses, which is why I think he'll regress even further south this year. He gets to play SD, DET, MIN, PIT, CHI, MIA, JETS who all are pretty stout. Not to mention HOUSTON 2x who arguably the 2nd best rush defense in the NFL behind the 9ers. So not only is it nearly a foregone conclusion he will struggle vs the division as recent history shows us, he has a brutal schedule ahead. No more cupcakes and I'm going to also venture to say he'll only have 2 games this year where he eclipses 100 yards rushing.

I've outlined why I think he's completely ineffective but one thing he can't control is his offensive line play. Depending on who you talk to you'll hear either ardent defenders of CJ suggest his line is atrocious, or I've heard people suggest he has an above average line and he's the sole problem. It's probably somewhere closer to half way and it does appear to be a bottom 16 unit which clearly doesn't bode well regarding his outlook. According to Pat Kirwarn commented he only saw 2 plays in Sundays game where his line gave him sufficient running room. Even further reason to believe he's going to struggle considering his line looks to be awful.

I at one point bought into the hype and was considering using a 1st round pick on him (before the preseason). After a lot of research I really feel strongly that he will be one of the worst 1st round busts in recent years. On my personal big board which I'm updating throughout the season I have him ranked somewhere in the 45-55 overall range. He's about my 20th ranked RB right now. Guys I would prefer over him in no order include, Foster/RR/McCoy/McFadden/Ridley/Demarco/Lynch/Charles/Spiller/Kevin Smith/Doug Martin/Ahmad Bradshaw/Ryan Matthews/Willis Mcgahee/Sproles/Reggie Bush/SJAX/Trent/MJD/Forte/Peterson..


As crazy as thing sounds he is nothing more then a skinny Shonn Greene. Sure Greene is a plodder that has a bruising style and picks up 3 yard after 3 yard run but at the end of the day their stats are nearly identical and although it sounds crazy talk, it would not surprise me if Shonn Greene outperformed CJ4Yards in 2012.

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Tough one again this week Romo vs Seahawks or Ryan vs Broncos? Also I subbed Jennings for Kenny Britt and I don't know who to put at flex; Ogletree, Cobb or Maclin

Or perhaps there's another option:
Sit Kenny Britt start either one of those 3 mentioned above and put Reggie Bush at flex?
hey bane, just dont forget to remind me what scoring format youre using, makes answering easier.

i like ryan vs denver by a lot. for starters ryan is coming off his best game ever. he looked as good as he's ever looked. his biggest knock is that he doesnt play well on the road and he went into arrowhead and poopooed all over them. this game is in atlanta where ryan has been brilliant. it should be a high scoring affair. also its not pretty obvious that ryan is going to finish as a top 5 QB.

romo on the other hand has a very tough match up. seattles secondary is no joke and theyre on the road. ryans the play.

id play cobb over kenny britt, we just dont know what we're getting out of kenny and it appears he'll be on a snap count anyway. not saying he wont have a good game but he's coming off an injury and you should take a wait and see approach before using him. reggie bush is definitely a good flex vs oakland defense that is very suspect..also maclin a great option if he suits up.
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Calvin
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Start 2 WR and a Flex. .5 ppr


Don't really have a RB worth the flex so it comes down to the WRs. Calvin is a must start so that leaves two spots open.
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