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Old 08-24-2011, 08:35 AM   #16
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Default Re: Mike Fratello: European Basketball Is More Physical Than The NBA

Well I donīt think the games were fixed for Team USA, but some players forced FIBA refs hand just like they did NBA refs. Can you call travelling on every offensive possession on LeBron or Wade? FIBA would embarrass the NBA superstars, possibly leading to the USA saying they donīt want their superstars embarrassed like five year olds like that canīt follow the simple rules of basketball.

At the same time that this hurts the NBA, it also hurts FIBA, who receives much more attention through the participation of NBA superstars and improves their game. Yes for a while it was cool to beat Team USA, and great for business, but at some point Team USA needed to win again.

Whatīs interesting is that apparently no European team has any interest in LeBron James. Havenīt heard a thing about offers made to him. Meanwhile teams offer Durant millions of dollars. I think that also shows that European clubs consider Durantīs World Championships performances much more legit than all of Bronīs national team appearances. I donīt think many consider LeBron to be a superior basketball player to Durant under FIBA rules, because Bronīs RB go-to-move is even more useless against a real zone than it was against the Mavs NBA zone.
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:04 AM   #17
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Well I donīt think the games were fixed for Team USA, but some players forced FIBA refs hand just like they did NBA refs. Can you call travelling on every offensive possession on LeBron or Wade? FIBA would embarrass the NBA superstars, possibly leading to the USA saying they donīt want their superstars embarrassed like five year olds like that canīt follow the simple rules of basketball.

At the same time that this hurts the NBA, it also hurts FIBA, who receives much more attention through the participation of NBA superstars and improves their game. Yes for a while it was cool to beat Team USA, and great for business, but at some point Team USA needed to win again.

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No.you can call travelling when they actually travel.It's not like they were doing it on every possesion for gods sake.Did Usa get away with travelling on some occasions?Absolutely,but so did Spain with their moving screens,or their own travels that went uncalled.I mean look at the play at 6.58.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9-MN...eature=related
Gasol pushed Howard,Reyes gets the rebound and travels,and gives it to Rudy for the open 3 point shot.Did you hear anyone cry about it? when Usa gets the benefit of the call it's apparently a conspiracy but on Spains case,it's just honest mistakes.I'm tired with this bs.
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:46 AM   #18
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Default Re: Mike Fratello: European Basketball Is More Physical Than The NBA

Yeah, it is. So? NBA basketball > Euroleague
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:33 AM   #19
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Yeah, it is. So? NBA basketball > Euroleague

Exactly right.

OP, why do you continue to post here if you hate the NBA so much?

I actually really enjoy watching FIBA basketball, honestly I like watching FIBA basketball more than a lot of the NBA teams because they play a much more team oriented game and are a lot more physical but I can definately admit that the NBA is a superior league.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:03 PM   #20
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Default Re: Mike Fratello: European Basketball Is More Physical Than The NBA

NCAA basketball is more physical/allows more contact than the NBA. What's your point?
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:08 PM   #21
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Can someone ban the OP..
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:43 PM   #22
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So funny, how even the FIBA refs admitted they rigged those tournaments................yeah hilarious.
Ban please. This guys posts lies with no supporting sources.

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Old 08-24-2011, 12:46 PM   #23
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Its funny how in spite of that, we're the Olympic and FIBA champions. Came into your house and took the rings


Exactly.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:08 PM   #24
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Can't we just agree that Euroball is more physical with less physically-imposing players, with the opposite being true for the NBA.

Not unless we want to pass off fiction as fact. The average Euroleague player is bigger than the average NBA player. Stop posting this fantasy myth that the NBA has bigger players, when they actually are smaller.

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:15 PM   #25
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No.you can call travelling when they actually travel.It's not like they were doing it on every possesion for gods sake.Did Usa get away with travelling on some occasions?Absolutely,but so did Spain with their moving screens,or their own travels that went uncalled.I mean look at the play at 6.58.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9-MN...eature=related
Gasol pushed Howard,Reyes gets the rebound and travels,and gives it to Rudy for the open 3 point shot.Did you hear anyone cry about it? when Usa gets the benefit of the call it's apparently a conspiracy but on Spains case,it's just honest mistakes.I'm tired with this bs.

The FIBA head of Olympic group reffing stated that the technical fouls were awarded to the USA at the end of that gold medal game in order to ensure victory for the USA, per the orders of FIBA to the refs that they were told that Team USA must win the gold medal before the tournament began.

Whether you like it or not, this stands as a fact and puts a huge asterisk over the USA gold medal.

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:16 PM   #26
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Exactly right.

OP, why do you continue to post here if you hate the NBA so much?

I actually really enjoy watching FIBA basketball, honestly I like watching FIBA basketball more than a lot of the NBA teams because they play a much more team oriented game and are a lot more physical but I can definately admit that the NBA is a superior league.

The Euroleague is not a FIBA league.
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Ban please. This guys posts lies with no supporting sources.

Ban.

The source has been posted dozens of times in this forum. DOZENS OF TIMES. And every time someonel like you says it is a lie and asks for a ban of the person posting it.

Grow up.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:18 PM   #28
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So funny, how even the FIBA refs admitted they rigged those tournaments................yeah hilarious.



i literally lol'd

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:20 PM   #29
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literally loled

So you are saying the Olympic group lead ref lied about that when they said it in the media? Really?
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:20 PM   #30
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FIBA rulebook:

Rule 1. Nothing is a foul.
Rule 2. Everything is a travel.
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