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Old 04-24-2013, 10:30 AM   #1
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What is a good word to describe that type of intelligence that isn't book smarts or street smarts? That third type.... the type where you can tell what's going on a supraficial level that others cant.

Supraficial intelligence?
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Books smarts and street smarts is the most retarded category of "smarts" ever invented. Such a stupid misnomer.

Theoretically, they are both dependent on the acquisition of knowledge either by sensory stimuli or comprehension and the application of said knowledge. And on top of that a person who is a good reader is often a good speaker as well due to his ability to formulate ideas.. there's way too much overlap. There's a clearer distinction between autistic/spergy math nerds who are socially inept than their is between someone who excels at law school.

Clifton or GIGANTES feel free to stop by and expound.

If you really wanna stretch it.. categorize them as Interpersonal Skills and Reading/Writing Skills.

We'll stick with Gardner's list on this one.
Verbal Linguistic Intelligence
Mathematical Logical Intelligence
Visual Spatial Intelligence
Intrapersonal Intelligence
Interpersonal Intelligence
Natural Intelligence
Bodily Kinesthetic Intelilgence
Musical Intelligence

So far you've knocked down inter/natural/verbal/mathematical Someone who excels in school (. And someone who excels in da streetz.)

That leaves us with four that have been relatively untouched.

Intrapersonal (Someone's self-awareness and intuition and reflective abilities)
Bodily Kinesthetic (An athlete's grace on their respective sport)
Musical INtelligence (Hearing and conducting patterns...but this is tied with math)
Visual Spatial Intelligence (An Artists meticulous ability to paint a picture)

You mentioned knowing what's going on.. that points into intuition. Read up on "Blink" for a further analysis. By what you're describing--- would a shaman or a primitive magic guy who could see past bullsh!t an immediately create a map of what's going on and seeing things as they are be a proper example? Then the answer is intuitive.

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Old 04-24-2013, 11:05 AM   #4
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Books smarts and street smarts is the most retarded category of "smarts" ever invented. Such a stupid misnomer.

Theoretically, they are both dependent on the acquisition of knowledge either by sensory stimuli or comprehension and the application of said knowledge. And on top of that a person who is a good reader is often a good speaker as well due to his ability to formulate ideas.. there's way too much overlap. There's a clearer distinction between autistic/spergy math nerds who are socially inept than their is between someone who excels at law school.

Clifton or GIGANTES feel free to stop by and expound.

If you really wanna stretch it.. categorize them as Interpersonal Skills and Reading/Writing Skills.

We'll stick with Gardner's list on this one.
Verbal Linguistic Intelligence
Mathematical Logical Intelligence
Visual Spatial Intelligence
Intrapersonal Intelligence
Interpersonal Intelligence
Natural Intelligence
Bodily Kinesthetic Intelilgence
Musical Intelligence

So far you've knocked down two of them. Someone who excels in school (. And someone who excels in shoot.

That leaves us with four that have been relatively untouched.

Intrapersonal (Someone's self-awareness and intuition and reflective abilities)
Bodily Kinesthetic (An athlete's grace on their respective sport)
Musical INtelligence (Hearing and conducting patterns...but this is tied with math)
Visual Spatial Intelligence (An Artists meticulous ability to paint a picture)

Intrapersonal intelligence is what I was going for
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Intrapersonal intelligence is what I was going for

Cool

Just to let you know Canada, that none of this stuff is static. It's predetermined to an extent, but largely fluid.

But it can be augmentated with deep theta state meditation, detaching yourself and using brutal self-reflection, having a solid understanding of human motives (psychology/social psychology/behavioral sciences), body language, knowing little nuances which differentiate a liar from an honest person, and being PRESENT in the moment.

If you're willing to try an experiment.. do this.
Notice that if you exchange eye contact with someone for >10 minutes (creepy, ya i know) you'll have a few.. foreign thoughts enter your head. Further research is being conducted.. but there are semblances of evidence for a certain psychic effect. Think Donnie Darko stomach bubbles..

Likewise, on the brink of hypnoponic (sp?) sleep, right before dreaming.. what Joyce called "streams of consciousness" a few random, nonsensical thoughts that deviate from what you think about. People have called this a "Superconscious," and apparently it's universal. Check out the Youtube Series and Napoleon Hill on this one.

I have a lot of work to do in this field. As men we're generally a bit behind being so externally focused, but we have an uncanny ability to be honest with ourselves which puts us ahead of delusions.

With a stronger training in reading body language and comprehending others, I believe that we can make the world a better place and look past lies and see "WHAT's REALLY BEING SAID."
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Is saying you have supraficial intelligence like saying you have a good personality when you are butt ass ugly to make yourself feel better?
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Education relies on rote memorization. Kids who claim they are superior to everybody else because they have an A in chemistry are really not that smart: even a chimp can learn to memorize and perform certain tasks.

Memorization is the lowest level of thinking - Benjamin Bloom (creator of the curriculum for public education)

The highest level of thinking is philosophy; Science is second since it relies on a theory first and foremost, thus making it a slave to philosophy (all revolutionary ideas from science first starts with philosophy and then formulated into a theory to make it a science, so therefore science is a product of the mind with a basis on a false materialism).

Experience is higher than education but not as complex as philosophy or science.

To gain wisdom (the highest state of mind), a person needs experience combine with the intellect of philosophy and the knowledge of science.

*Note the science in education isn't real science but rather a watered down version of newtonian's methodology. To be educated is to be mediocre, hence why nothing truly extroardinary ever comes out of the public education.

Being in the military voids you of any intellect since it exercises the frontal lobe, destroys the ego, and blocks off all creativity (the same can be argue with education to a certain extent), hence why it is laughable a person with a military background gives his opinion; I mean seriously, just shut up and do what you are told.

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Education relies on rote memorization. Kids who claim they are superior to everybody else because they have an A in chemistry are really not that smart: even a chimp can learn to memorize and perform certain tasks.

Memorization is the lowest level of thinking - Benjamin Bloom (creator of the curriculum for public education)

The highest level of thinking is philosophy; Science is second since it relies on a theory first and foremost, thus making it a slave to philosophy (all revolutionary ideas from science first starts with philosophy and then formulated into a theory to make it a science, so therefore science is a product of the mind with a basis on a false materialism.

Experience is higher than education but not as complex as philosophy or science.

The true purpose of education is to instill a work ethic in you and to think critically and creatively. Or well.. it used to be.

I don't know how many pretentious motherfukkers you've been around but most of the girls and guys getting straight 4.0's were awfully humble about it. You rehash this opinion over. and over. and over. again. But for what purpose? Anyone with decent judgment knows that there's more to be taken into account than fallible concrete statistics. You're preaching to an already nodding choir on this one, bud.

Why does it bother you when people brag about their GPA's? Does it crush your soul or re-trigger a feeling of inadequacy back when comparing report cards in grade school? Why does this bad blood still poison an otherwise curious and good soul?

It's pointless to antagonize good memorizers/hard workers because there's so many examples of people on the flipside (supersmart blessed guys who are LAZY AS FUKKK and end up not creating anything.) Like I've heard your opinion being repeated over and over and over again. We still need a measurable quantity to help people get situated into hierarchies. Are there other ways in which a subpar student can outdo someone in an intellectual joust? If so, by all means work on continuing this.


I ask you to make a more valuable post on questions that will improve our philosophical muscles. Questions and processes of thought. Your contributions are appreciated. But this one's getting kinda annoying. We all want to grow and progress. We don't need to spend an ounce of effort on kicking the successful memorizers down their "pedestals". Instead creative and philosophical spirits need to direct their memories into further reestablishing truths as the status quo.
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Is saying you have supraficial intelligence like saying you have a good personality when you are butt ass ugly to make yourself feel better?


Yes
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Books smarts and street smarts is the most retarded category of "smarts" ever invented. Such a stupid misnomer.

Theoretically, they are both dependent on the acquisition of knowledge either by sensory stimuli or comprehension and the application of said knowledge. And on top of that a person who is a good reader is often a good speaker as well due to his ability to formulate ideas.. there's way too much overlap. There's a clearer distinction between autistic/spergy math nerds who are socially inept than their is between someone who excels at law school.

Clifton or GIGANTES feel free to stop by and expound.

If you really wanna stretch it.. categorize them as Interpersonal Skills and Reading/Writing Skills.

We'll stick with Gardner's list on this one.
Verbal Linguistic Intelligence
Mathematical Logical Intelligence
Visual Spatial Intelligence
Intrapersonal Intelligence
Interpersonal Intelligence
Natural Intelligence
Bodily Kinesthetic Intelilgence
Musical Intelligence

So far you've knocked down inter/natural/verbal/mathematical Someone who excels in school (. And someone who excels in da streetz.)

That leaves us with four that have been relatively untouched.

Intrapersonal (Someone's self-awareness and intuition and reflective abilities)
Bodily Kinesthetic (An athlete's grace on their respective sport)
Musical INtelligence (Hearing and conducting patterns...but this is tied with math)
Visual Spatial Intelligence (An Artists meticulous ability to paint a picture)

You mentioned knowing what's going on.. that points into intuition. Read up on "Blink" for a further analysis. By what you're describing--- would a shaman or a primitive magic guy who could see past bullsh!t an immediately create a map of what's going on and seeing things as they are be a proper example? Then the answer is intuitive.


Does it make me a narcissist if I think I'm more intelligent than everyone I've ever met in these areas?
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The true purpose of education is to instill a work ethic in you and to think critically and creatively. Or well.. it used to be.

I don't know how many pretentious motherfukkers you've been around but most of the girls and guys getting straight 4.0's were awfully humble about it. You rehash this opinion over. and over. and over. again. But for what purpose? Anyone with decent judgment knows that there's more to be taken into account than fallible concrete statistics. You're preaching to an already nodding choir on this one, bud.

Why does it bother you when people brag about their GPA's? Does it crush your soul or re-trigger a feeling of inadequacy back when comparing report cards in grade school? Why does this bad blood still poison an otherwise curious and good soul?

It's pointless to antagonize good memorizers/hard workers because there's so many examples of people on the flipside (supersmart blessed guys who are LAZY AS FUKKK and end up not creating anything.) Like I've heard your opinion being repeated over and over and over again. We still need a measurable quantity to help people get situated into hierarchies. Are there other ways in which a subpar student can outdo someone in an intellectual joust? If so, by all means work on continuing this.


I ask you to make a more valuable post on questions that will improve our philosophical muscles. Questions and processes of thought. Your contributions are appreciated. But this one's getting kinda annoying. We all want to grow and progress. We don't need to spend an ounce of effort on kicking the successful memorizers down their "pedestals". Instead creative and philosophical spirits need to direct their memories into further reestablishing truths as the status quo.

Education's disdain for philosophy and creativity is the reason why I disdain the methods of education. All the greatest ideas of all time came from creativity, and it seems like there is tremendous amount of effort to kill off this side of intellect and exercise the frontal lobe (the black and white perspective of thinking); so what happens? Kids don't know how to think and only know how to regurgitate what they are being told. They even use bullsh*t exercises like "critical thinking and problem solving" to find critique in other ideologies that do not fit into a very constricted mold of thinking. This is the reason why the public educational system has failed to yield any new revolutionary ideas since it's inception in the 50s.

Why the disdain for philosophy? Kids are told it is useless and they are restricted to an ethics class in college. What these kids don't realize is it is philosophy that has evolved the intellectual revolution of mankind and actually the creator of science and the all the courses they are taking in public education.

Sad education's only true purpose is to make drones out of kids to habitually work a 9-5 job or be better prepared for the military.

Maybe the kids aren't really stupid; ever wonder if it's actually what they are being taught and how?

New concept I know.
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Is saying you have supraficial intelligence like saying you have a good personality when you are butt ass ugly to make yourself feel better?

Bingo bitch.

(but also to try to explain why some people follow fads and others just see it for what it is)
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Does it make me a narcissist if I think I'm more intelligent than everyone I've ever met in these areas?

No, you're just arrogant.

Being a narcissist would mean you constantly praise yourself because you think you're so smart.
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Does it make me a narcissist if I think I'm more intelligent than everyone I've ever met in these areas?

Probably. Do you have a collection of impressive achievements to back up this feeling of superiority? I'm betting not.
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What is a good word to describe that type of intelligence that isn't book smarts or street smarts? That third type.... the type where you can tell what's going on a supraficial level that others cant.

Supraficial intelligence?



- The pick is a tiny part of the beast...so it has supranatural qualities.

- Supernatural?

- No, supra-natural.

- That's like a whole other level above super.
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