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Old 09-22-2011, 11:25 PM   #1
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Default Convince me why Lebron & Nash dont have the best PASSING SKILLS in the NBA today....

ok first of all... i am really serious here.. i am really honestly trying to be as unbiased as i can....

i have watched EVERYTHING about Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Rajon Rondo, Jason Kidd, Lebron James...... i have seen all their best assists.... have seen most of their games since they got drafted to the NBA.....

and i am really not afraid to say that Lebron James & Steve Nash have the best PASSING ABILITY / PASSING ARSENAL / PASSING SKILLS in the NBA today, at this very moment......... i want to add Jason Kidd aswell, but he is not that kindof a passer nowadays exactly, 10 years ago i would have him even above Nash... but right now im not sure.....

and please... dont give me that Assists BS.....

APG is just like PPG.... the guy who passes/shoots the most will most likely have the most assists/points.............. its as simple as that!

Kevin Durant averages most PPG today... but he does not have truly better scoring arsenal than KOBE...
Wilt Chamberlain had much more Points than Jordan... but did he have better scoring arsenal?

Rajon Rondo averages most APG today... but he does not have truly better passing arsenal than NASH OR LEBRON....
John Stockton had much more Assists than Magic... but did he have better passing arsenal?

thats NOT how you measure a guys PASSING Arsenal / Skills / Court Vision ........... THATS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO SEE FOR YOURSELF.... THE NUMBERS WONT TELL YOU EVERYTHING....

HERE IS SOME STUFF FROM LEBRON:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqnWh...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooEEL...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5lTh3oWLQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPr3NNGL_fg

HERE IS SOME STUFF FROM NASH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTskofT6QaU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr01RxyK0dA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipm0g...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G5ZcutCbRw


THEY POSSESS THE BEST PASSING ARSENAL IN THE NBA.....
THEY ARE THE MOST ACCURATE...
THEY THREAD THE NEEDLE BETTER THAN ANYBODY....
THEY HAVE THE BEST COURT VISION...
THEY THROW PASSES FROM RIDICILOUS SITUATIONS & ANGLES ON THE MONEY...

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Old 09-22-2011, 11:30 PM   #2
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Jason Kidd is a WAY better passer than Lebron. It's not even close.

I swear, if you seriously think that Lebron is a better passer than Kidd, I'll fall out of my chair.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:33 PM   #3
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Rajon Rondo averages most APG today... but he does not have truly better passing arsenal than NASH OR LEBRON....
Please this is too much.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:34 PM   #4
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Rajon Rondo averages most APG today... but he does not have truly better passing arsenal than LEBRON....

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Old 09-22-2011, 11:35 PM   #5
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Please this is too much.

see... posts like these are annoying... i wont even respond to such posts...

if you dont have anything to say than a smiley face or stupid stuff like that then DONT... or DO.. but i wont respond...

explain yourself... give me some facts... give me some CONTEXT.... then we can talk ok?
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:37 PM   #6
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Jason Kidd is a WAY better passer than Lebron. It's not even close.

I swear, if you seriously think that Lebron is a better passer than Kidd, I'll fall out of my chair.

Why not? Tell me.... I think Jason Kidd is #3 right behind Nash & Lebron in terms of PURE PASSING SKILLS....

if we are talking about 10-15 years ago.... then i would say Jason Kidd is #1... easily....

i think you are a bit to biased... and as far as i know.... you are a lebron hater... completely blinded by your lebron hatred.....

you have not commended Lebron EVER on anything.... infact you probably dont even think he is a top 5 or even a top 10 player in the NBA today.... so why should i take you seriously?
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:40 PM   #7
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My ni99a said a passing arsenal doe
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:44 PM   #8
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Why not? Tell me.... I think Jason Kidd is #3 right behind Nash & Lebron in terms of PURE PASSING SKILLS....

if we are talking about 10-15 years ago.... then i would say Jason Kidd is #1... easily....

i think you are a bit to biased... and as far as i know.... you are a lebron hater... completely blinded by your lebron hatred.....

you have not commended Lebron EVER on anything.... so why should i take you seriously?

In terms of passing skills, Lebron has no case over Kidd. Not even the 3 million year old Kidd that we see today.

-Kidd is way better at running the break.
-Kidd has better vision.
-Kidd is way better at running the offense. Have you ever noticed how under control and efficient an offense is when Kidd is playing?
-Kidd is better at throwing alley-oops.
-Kidd is better at making those "fancy" passes that fake defenders out. Some people like to down-play the fancy passes, but it's a good skill to have.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:48 PM   #9
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:52 PM   #13
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see... posts like these are annoying... i wont even respond to such posts...

if you dont have anything to say than a smiley face or stupid stuff like that then DONT... or DO.. but i wont respond...

explain yourself... give me some facts... give me some CONTEXT.... then we can talk ok?
Then stop making almost outlandish claims. Lebron has above average passing skills for a point guard, maybe even great. Rondo has a 6'9" wingspan (3 inches short of Lebron's), quickness, speed, high bbiq, and one of the best court visions in the league. There is no real advantage Lebron has over Rondo in terms of passing besides defenses panicking more over Lebron than Rondo.


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Old 09-22-2011, 11:54 PM   #15
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In terms of passing skills, Lebron has no case over Kidd. Not even the 3 million year old Kidd that we see today.

-Kidd is way better at running the break.
-Kidd has better vision.
-Kidd is way better at running the offense. Have you ever noticed how under control and efficient an offense is when Kidd is playing?
-Kidd is better at throwing alley-oops.
-Kidd is better at making those "fancy" passes that fake defenders out. Some people like to down-play the fancy passes, but it's a good skill to have.

yea man... you can still debate he is the best passer in the NBA why not...

me personally i think he is not the passer he was 10 years ago.... nowadays i think this 37-38 years old 210 pound Kidd is not the athlete he was to do all those things you mentioned equally good....

dont get me wrong.... i think there is no big gap at all still... Jason Kidd i have ranked #2 as having the best passing ability ever (behind Magic Johnson).... and i havent seen that Jason Kidd this previous season...... not exactly! i havent seen his passing repertoir beat out NASH & LEBRON passing repertoir this season.....

i am talking about this Jason Kidd:
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