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Old 05-20-2014, 08:51 AM   #1
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Default Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

From Jordan, to Kobe, to Lebron, and now to KD, the era of "hero ball" reigns in the NBA. You need multiple superstars to win a title.

If the Spurs win the title this year, a whole generation of young NBA fans will know that a great team will always endure over a team of great individuals. Yes, the Spurs have 1 superstar in Parker(does anyone still consider Duncan or Manu superstars), but they are defined by their depth and team play more than anything else.

There have been exceptions in NBA history, perhaps when Dirk led a good Mavs team over the "hero ball" offense of the Heat. So a resounding Spurs win this year will solidify team ball over "hero ball" once again. Remember also the Spurs should have won the title last year, if not for a a fluke play by the Heat.

Is the NBA about to make another key turn in it's history?
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Old 05-20-2014, 08:52 AM   #2
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

Not really. The Thunder would have beaten the Spurs with Ibaka.
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Old 05-20-2014, 08:54 AM   #3
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

the last time non-hero ball win was in 2004, so no
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:17 AM   #4
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

good defensive teams can always interrupt offensive flow. When plays break down teams need a guy that can isolate and create offense individually.

The spurs got guys that can all go to work when needed, but they are smart enough to know to use it as a last ditch effort or when an immediate opportunity arises.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:27 AM   #5
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

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Not really. The Thunder would have beaten the Spurs with Ibaka.

You don't know that.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:35 AM   #6
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

Dirk beat the heat with Hero Ball of his own though
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:37 AM   #7
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

Spurs probably have the best and most talented team in the league. They aren't doing anything new by winning a title with the best team
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:39 AM   #8
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

Unless this Spurs team wins the next 3 championships, I wouldn't entertain the idea that superstar led teams are dead.

In the last 34 years we have seen exactly 5 teams win championships without having what I consider to be a top 3 player in the league. The team may still be stacked like the 08 Celtics, or the back to back Pistons, but there is no top 3 player for that season on the team.

Great players almost always win championships. That's why teams tank for loaded lottery classes. They're hoping for transcendent talent. They're hoping to draft the next Magic, Duncan or Jordan. They want a guy that will stick around for the next 15 years with that franchise that players will come to play with.

2013 - Miami Heat - LeBron James
2012 - Miami Heat - LeBron James
2011 - Dallas Mavericks - Dirk Nowitzki
2010 - LA Lakers - Kobe Bryant
2009 - LA Lakers - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Boston Celtics - TEAM Ball
2007 - San Antonio Spurs - TEAM Ball
2006 - Miami Heat - Referees
2005 - San Antonio Spurs - Tim Duncan
2004 - Detroit Pistons - TEAM Ball
2003 - San Antonio Spurs - Tim Duncan
2002 - LA Lakers - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - LA Lakers - Shaquille O'Neal
2000 - LA Lakers - Shaquilles O'Neal
1999 - San Antonio Spurs - Tim Duncan
1998 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1997 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1996 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1995 - Houston Rockets - Hakeem Olajuwon
1994 - Houston Rockets - Hakeem Olajuwon
1993 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1992 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1991 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1990 - Detroit Pistons - TEAM Ball
1989 - Detroit Pistons - TEAM Ball

1988 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
1987 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
1986 - Boston Celtics - Larry Bird
1985 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
1984 - Boston Celtics - Larry Bird
1983 - Philadelphia 76ers - Moses Malone
1982 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
1981 - Boston Celtics - Larry Bird
1980 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:43 AM   #9
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

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Not really. The Thunder would have beaten the Spurs with Ibaka.

No Tiago Splitter wants his revenge on Lebron, and Tiago would have destroyed Ibaka.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:58 AM   #10
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

no, for one, spurs havent won shit yet(not saying they wont). Then there is the bit about "hero ball", any team needs great players to bail them out, spurs just happen to have three of them. True they are not the mega stars they were, but they still what it takes to score in crucnh time.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:02 AM   #11
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

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Unless this Spurs team wins the next 3 championships, I wouldn't entertain the idea that superstar led teams are dead.

In the last 34 years we have seen exactly 5 teams win championships without having what I consider to be a top 3 player in the league. The team may still be stacked like the 08 Celtics, or the back to back Pistons, but there is no top 3 player for that season on the team.

Great players almost always win championships. That's why teams tank for loaded lottery classes. They're hoping for transcendent talent. They're hoping to draft the next Magic, Duncan or Jordan. They want a guy that will stick around for the next 15 years with that franchise that players will come to play with.

2013 - Miami Heat - LeBron James
2012 - Miami Heat - LeBron James
2011 - Dallas Mavericks - Dirk Nowitzki
2010 - LA Lakers - Kobe Bryant
2009 - LA Lakers - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Boston Celtics - TEAM Ball
2007 - San Antonio Spurs - TEAM Ball
2006 - Miami Heat - Referees
2005 - San Antonio Spurs - Tim Duncan
2004 - Detroit Pistons - TEAM Ball
2003 - San Antonio Spurs - Tim Duncan
2002 - LA Lakers - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - LA Lakers - Shaquille O'Neal
2000 - LA Lakers - Shaquilles O'Neal
1999 - San Antonio Spurs - Tim Duncan
1998 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1997 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1996 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1995 - Houston Rockets - Hakeem Olajuwon
1994 - Houston Rockets - Hakeem Olajuwon
1993 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1992 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1991 - Chicago Bulls - Michael Jordan
1990 - Detroit Pistons - TEAM Ball
1989 - Detroit Pistons - TEAM Ball

1988 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
1987 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
1986 - Boston Celtics - Larry Bird
1985 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
1984 - Boston Celtics - Larry Bird
1983 - Philadelphia 76ers - Moses Malone
1982 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
1981 - Boston Celtics - Larry Bird
1980 - LA Lakers - Magic Johnson
Ether

It's easier to win with an elite player than with a bunch of good players.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:05 AM   #12
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

Doesn't end it, would be just a small bump in the road for it. More times than not superstars will win you titles.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:10 AM   #13
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spurs got so many damn weapons. even if they're not "superstars" they still gonna bust you up.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:11 AM   #14
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Default Re: Are the Spurs about to end "hero ball" ?

No, they don't have a superstar. Duncan has been our best player over the past two years. If there is one it's him (though, again, he's not a superstar, neither is Parker).

Hero ball will never die though.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:14 AM   #15
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Hero ball is a myth. You cant win without a great team around you. Defensively which is 50% of the game you cant play ''hero ball''. Offensively, no team has won by running isos for one player the whole game.
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