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Old 09-27-2011, 05:30 PM   #16
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Default Re: Sports Science, Dirk has the most unguardable shot in NBA history?

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Sky-hook is a type of shot. And it requires a lot more skill than a dunk. You're just talking a minor point on semantics that was never made in the OP.

Sports science is talking about his jumper/fadeaway not his post game and hook shots.
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:30 PM   #17
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If ANYBODY in NBA history could guard Dirk.... who would it be? rodman? shaq? pippen? how the hell do you contain such a shot?

The answer to this question is Stephen Jackson.

Captain Jack can contain Nowitzki just fine.
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:35 PM   #18
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The answer to this question is Stephen Jackson.

Captain Jack can contain Nowitzki just fine.
Udonis Haslem guards him well too.
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:35 PM   #19
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Default Re: Sports Science, Dirk has the most unguardable shot in NBA history?

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The answer to this question is Stephen Jackson.

Captain Jack can contain Nowitzki just fine.

some truth to this. Jackson bodied him up pretty well in 2007 (Dirk's MVP year), and James Posey and Haslem did a good job the year before.

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Default Re: Sports Science, Dirk has the most unguardable shot in NBA history?

Give me Kareem's skyhook.

While Dirk's shot may be "unguardable" to a degree, as a defender your job is not necessarily to block the shot. Let's face it, in this era, the best shotblocker doesn't even block 3 shots a game. A defender's job ultimately is to limit the scorer's effectiveness hopefully by forcing him to take shots out of his comfort zone.
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some truth to this. Jackson bodied him up pretty well in 2007 (Dirk's MVP year), and James Posey and Haslem did a good job the year before.



I bet he made that shot =p
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Default Re: Sports Science, Dirk has the most unguardable shot in NBA history?

Smaller players used to guard him well. But that changed since the 07 series. He didn't have the "Euro one legged fade" til after the GS series. Now it is a staple in free throw line extended/elbow isolations.

As for unguardable shots, Dirk's one legged fade and Kareem's skyhook are probably the two most unguardable. On both shots, you contest and hope they miss.

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Old 09-27-2011, 05:40 PM   #23
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I bet he made that shot =p

Well, in the series he only made .38% of his shots...
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:44 PM   #24
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Well, in the series he only made .38% of his shots...

Ah so he played as well as Iverson. People think thats good if you put up points right?!? lol
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:44 PM   #25
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Sports science is talking about his jumper/fadeaway not his post game and hook shots.
So? Sports Science doesn't talk about any player other than Nowitzki in that clip, does that mean we should therefore not talk about any other player? The OP clearly asks if "Dirks shot the most unguardable move in NBA history." So we're talking about moves and shots in NBA history.
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:46 PM   #26
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Default Re: Sports Science, Dirk has the most unguardable shot in NBA history?

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Smaller players used to guard him well. But that changed since the 07 series. He didn't have the "Euro one legged fade" til after the GS series. Now it is a staple in free throw line extended/elbow isolations.

As for unguardable shots, Dirk's one legged fade and Kareem's skyhook are probably the two most unguardable. On both shots, you contest and hope they miss.
MJ's fadeaway is also up there, wouldn't say it was as impossible to deal with as the skyhook but like Nowitzki's fade no one could block it.
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Old 09-27-2011, 06:07 PM   #27
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Default Re: Sports Science, Dirk has the most unguardable shot in NBA history?

Where's a good place to compare the percentage of jump shots blocked between players? You can look it up per player per season on 82games.com, but that's pretty slow going.

That would be the best way to compare.
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Default Re: Sports Science, Dirk has the most unguardable shot in NBA history?

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Looks like Dirk's kicking the poor fella in the nuts.
That particular "poor fella" doesn't have any nuts, so nothing to worry about there.
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