Re: BREAKING NEWS: Little progress made, no further meetings scheduled
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Originally Posted by Hammertime
In a way, I was hoping for this. I hope the whole season gets cancelled and the players come crawling back when the bills for their pimped out mansions, Bentleys, chains, hos, and cocaine stack up.
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Little progress made, no further meetings scheduled
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Originally Posted by Joey Zaza
This is what is frustrating to me owners went from 46 to 47 and the players went from 54 to 53.
Doesn't take a math genius to see that this is headed to 50. So lets just get to 50 and start the season.
That's not enough. Length of contracts will be an issue as well.
I think the owners are stupid enough to cancel the entire season.
In hockey, the owners absolutely had to, since they were paying 76% of revenues to players, and had to have a hard cap, since they didn't get much tv revenue.
It's not the same in basketball. Move some of the teams, and some of the economic problems go away. The Nets are moving to NY - that's one team. Move the Spacers to Chicago - that's another team. Move the Kings to San Diego - that's another team.
Contracts need to be reduced in length - 4 years in regular contracts, 3 years in MLEs.
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Little progress made, no further meetings scheduled
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Originally Posted by Hammertime
In a way, I was hoping for this. I hope the whole season gets cancelled and the players come crawling back when the bills for their pimped out mansions, Bentleys, chains, hos, and cocaine stack up.
This isn't the 1990s anymore, players can go over seas and still make millions. The players have nothing to lose, the owners are the ones that have 100s of millions invested in teams. Those investments will rot if they don't give in. Basketball unlike baseball or football is very popular in other countries.
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Little progress made, no further meetings scheduled
Many players are finding ulternate playing options , because the pre-season and or training camp , can be done during the season - and poeple will pay to criticize the players for being out of shape while the players make moggle bucks.
I think the season will start before the New year.
But if it doesn't - the season will be canceled.
*Let's face it , prior to the meetings - the owners agreed if a deal isn't to their liking - the season will be canceled to send the msg to the players.
It's that simple.
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I don't know about the rest of you , but I am watching college football and some pro ball.
When the college season for BBall starts up , the NBA will be an after thought until they get their act together.... I ain't sweat'n it.
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Little progress made, no further meetings scheduled
I honestly wouldn't mind if they decertified at this point.
The owners are hoping that the lesser known players and scrubs will turn on the superstars making mega bucks and push to decertify. If guys like Kobe and LeBron lose a season they can sweat it but some of these guys pulling down a few hundred thousand to a million a year are going to see that money dry up reaaaal quick, especially if overseas options are limited for guys of their talent level.
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Little progress made, no further meetings scheduled
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Originally Posted by asdf1990
This isn't the 1990s anymore, players can go over seas and still make millions. The players have nothing to lose, the owners are the ones that have 100s of millions invested in teams. Those investments will rot if they don't give in. Basketball unlike baseball or football is very popular in other countries.
Wrong The other leagues can only support a small percentage of players and the ones that will get the contracts like Kobe and such are probably the ones that least need the money. there's 400 or so NBA players and only a handful will be able to find work overseas and even less of them will come close to getting paid what they are paid to play in the NBA. Players going overseas to play is not a threat to the owners, as a matter of fact it's probably more of a threat to union stability that the owners welcome
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Little progress made, no further meetings scheduled
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Originally Posted by bagelred
Because they know you'll ALWAYS come back......always.
No, I really dont think so. I have quit smoking this past year and I had done that for nearly 20 years. So this is just another habit to squash. It will be easier than smoking if these money grubbing divas continue to alienate the people that really pay the bills....the fans. Most fans as Ive said before are tightening their purse strings and to hear these millionaires squabble is enough to turn off many I would venture.
Re: Little October 4 process made, remainder of 2011 NBA preseason games now cancelled
If the owners really offered a 50/50 split, no hard cap, no salary rollbacks, and a 10 year deal with a 7th year opt out, there's absolutely no excuse for anyone to side the with players.
Good luck ever making half of league revenues again players union, the percentage points go nowhere but down now.
Re: Little October 4 process made, remainder of 2011 NBA preseason games now cancelled
So if I do the math correctly, 57% of $4 Billion is $2.28 Billion. If there's 450 players, that means the average player makes $5.07 million/yr. Going down to 53% would be $2.12 Billion making the average salary $4.71 million/yr. Thats about $355K per year per player. I don't think thats too much of a relative decrease. But if they went to 47%, that would be $4.17 million/yr, meaning almost $900K. I think thats alot to give up, not to mention all the system changes as well. Going 50/50 means they're losing $622K per player. I don't know. Sounds steep but maybe more reasonable. Can't really blame the players for not taking that especially with all the other provisions as well.
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Little progress made, no further meetings scheduled
