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Old 06-21-2006, 06:10 PM   #16
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I see it now..the raps have cleared two players that play sf/pf for a player that plays both of those positions in the draft. Andrea Bargnani or Tyrus Thomas.
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Old 06-21-2006, 06:12 PM   #17
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GoCrapz can you remove your avatar? Its really dumb, you should be promoting that nonsense. Thanks.
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Old 06-21-2006, 06:14 PM   #18
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Rasho's contract sucks and the Spurs call him the great white stiff for a reason. I think BC got hosed.
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Old 06-21-2006, 06:16 PM   #19
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The spurs got a 2, not a 1.

I actually like this deal for both teams. Williams and Bonners make 7 million this year anyway, and despite the fact that I like Bonner a lot, this move really helps clear out the rotation, and allows for more minutes for Charlie and whoever we draft.

Rasho will be a serviceable center, and realistically, he costs the same or less than what the Raps would have had to do to get one this summer anyway (4 or 5 year deal for midlevel+).

In the east, and with Bosh, CV and whoever is drafted, getting a guy like Rasho who can give 7/8 pts and boards a game and play some defense, which he is very capable of doing given reasonable minutes) is more than enough.

Aldridge/Rasho
Bosh/CV/Humphries
CV/Graham
Mo Pete/Graham
Ukic/Calderon


That's a decent lineup, and that's without having spent any of the 14 million in Cap space that the Raps have, and without including their 2nd round picks (hopefully Brown with pick 35).

Even if the Raps trade down and take Bargnani or Marcus Williams, they'll get another good piece in return (i.e. Brevin Knight).

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Old 06-21-2006, 06:16 PM   #20
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I dont know what to think of this trade. EWill and Bonner are both scrubs themselves but Rasho is way overpaid. I guess he's a decent starting C and he's better than what we had last year but his contract is horrible. Im not a big fan of this trade but I dont hate it either.
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GoCrapz can you remove your avatar? Its really dumb, you should be promoting that nonsense. Thanks.

happy? newly aqquired Rasho!! (or Radoslav, whatever they call him around here)
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Old 06-21-2006, 06:19 PM   #22
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Well this will definetly open up backup minutes for Bargnani at the 4 and possibly the 3 and 5 as well.

My guess for the Raptors depth chart for next year:

PG - Brevin Knight - Calderon
SG - Mo Pete - 2nd rounder
SF - Villanueva - Graham - Bargnani
PF - Bosh - Bargnani - Humphries/Sow
C - Rasho - Bargnani - Sow

Stick Roko in as a bench combo guard at the 1 and 2 if he comes over to the NBA.

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I think opening up minutes is a great aspect of this deal, and getting rid of Williams is a huge plus too.

Whether is Bargnani, Aldridge, or Thomas, this will give the team the space necessary to play Bosh, #1 and CV significant minutes.
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Old 06-21-2006, 06:39 PM   #24
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I don't like his deal either, but Rasho's a legit center, and as such, improves the Raptors over two players they can't really even use any more. I'm guessing that Colangelo is trying to set TO up to make the playoffs next year. This a step in that direction without sacrificing any major young talent.
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Looks like this officially rules out a MIL-TOR trade. Which is great news.
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Old 06-21-2006, 06:48 PM   #26
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Thanks Gorapz. Appreciate it...and the new avatar is funny. Rasho looks like a tool.


Question if Toronto drafts Bargani...what are the odds he is even ready to produce/contribute? I'd go Aldridge, Gay or Morrison...actually trade down and try to land one of the 3 and in the trade aquire a backup frontcourt player.
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Well Bargnani has been playing good minutes for his team in the playoffs lately and the word is that the Euro league can be considered fairly equal to the NCAA in terms of competition. Last time I looked, he's been getting decent stats in some of the games (around 15 points and 7 rebs with a bad game in his last one where he only had 8 pts in 30+ mins only 3/5 shooting). He plays with a couple of veteran 3pt chuckers so he doesn't get as many shots as you'd like him to get.

I think he will be able to contribute right away, just nothing too significant. He'll definetly be a bench player initially. I think with him being 7'1 (in shoes) and 250 lbs, the hope is that he'll become a C sometime in the future since Bosh is definetly the PF.

If they took Aldridge, he'd be backup at the moment too unless he shocks everyone and proves to be a quality NBA center. I doubt he would produce much more or less than Bargnani would in the same role on the Raptors.

Gay and Morrison are ones that would definetly screw the Raptors lineup up a bit. Both are 3's and really shouldn't be playing any other position. I think they would definetly produce more initially but do the Raptors then go with a small (and VERY soft) lineup with Morrison/Gay, Charlie and Bosh??? Or does Charlie go to the bench or get traded???

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Old 06-21-2006, 07:14 PM   #28
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He used two stiffs for one to plug a major concern. Rasho will plug space gra a couple of boards and box out. Eric Williams = worthless and Bonner was good his first year than had abreakdown last season. It gives the spurs cap relief and fills a bad hole for the Raps. If we take Aldridge, Brown and Leon Powe/Taj Gray

PG - FA/Ukic/Calderon
SG - Mopete/Brown/Alvin
SF - CV31/Graham
PF - Bosh/Garbajosa/Powe
C- Aldridge/Rasho/Sow

Not bad
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Old 06-21-2006, 07:29 PM   #29
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Great trade. They improved their rebounding and shot-blocking. For basically a guy that doesnt play and a pf that can shoot from outside. Maybe there is no need for him because they will be drafting a pf that can shoot from the outside.
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Rasho has a player option on his contract. Last year of the contract is a player option. Its unlikely he will opt out but we can dream right
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