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Default NBA's 10 Most Valuable Players for Every Franchise Using New Formula, Bleacher Report

The Formula is called Franchise Player Value Rating (FPVR). It takes into account a player's individual statistics, awards, team success, and tenure.

Here is how the formula breaks down:

• All stats have to be accumulated with the team in question
• Years of Service: 3 points
• Scoring Average: Face value (31 points per game equals 31 points)
• Rebounding Average: Face value
• Assists Average: Face value
• Steals Average: Face value (Stats for steals not kept until 1973-1974 season)
• Blocks Average: Face value (Stats for blocks not kept until 1972-1974 season)
• Championship Rings: 3 points
• Playoff Appearances: 1 point
• Conference Finals Appearances: 1.5 points
• NBA Finals Appearances: 2 points
• NBA All-Star Appearances: 5 points
• NBA All-Star Game MVP: 0.5 points
• NBA MVP Awards: 10 points
• NBA Finals MVP: 10 points
• All-NBA 1st Team: 8 points; 2nd Team: 5 points; 3rd Team: 3 points
• Rookie of the Year: 3 points
• Defensive Player of the Year: 3 points (Award not created until 1982-83 season)
• Sixth Man of the Year: 3 points (Award not created until 1982-83 season)
• All-Defensive 1st Team: 2 points; 2nd Team: 1 point; 3rd Team: 0.5 points

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8...ng-new-formula

Reasons for the formula’s choices are in the link, as well as a more detailed explanation of it.


Atlanta Hawks (Tri-Cities Blackhawks, Milwaukee Hawks & St. Louis Hawks)
1. Bob Petit 277.6 (1955-1965)
2. Dominique Wilkins 160.97 (1983-1994)
3. Cliff Hagan 127.9 (1957-1966)
4. Lou Hudson 111 (1967-1977)
5. Bill Bridges 95.3 (1963-1972)
6. Lenny Wilkens 93.4 (1961-1968)
7. Dikembe Mutombo 91(1997-2001)
8. Dan Roundfield 84.3 (1979-1984)
9. *Joe Johnson 82.1 (2006-Present)
10. Zelmo Beaty 77.6(1962-1969)

Boston Celtics
1. Bill Russell 350.9 (1957-1969)
2. Larry Bird 318.6 (1980-1992)
3. John Havlicek 307.9 (1963-1978)
4. Bob Cousy 296.8 (1951-1963)
5. Bill Sharman 188.5 (1952-1961)
6. Sam Jones 185.1 (1958-1969)
7. Tom Heinsohn 175.9 (1957-1965)
8. Kevin McHale 168.5 (1981-1993)
9. Robert Parish 167.5 (1981-1994)
10. Dave Cowens 162.6 (1971-1980)

Charlotte Bobcats
1. Gerald Wallace 58 (2005-2011)
2. Emeka Okafor 46.1 (2005-2009)
3. Raymond Felton 40.9 (2006-2010)
4. *Boris Diaw 33.4 (2009-Present)
5. Brevin Knight 32.9 (2005-2007)
6. *Matt Carroll 29.9 (2005-Present)
7. Primoz Brezec 28.7 (2005-2008)
8. *DJ Augustin 27.5 (2009-Present)
9. Nazr Mohammed 26.1 (2008-2011)
10. Sean May 24.7 (2006-2009)

Chicago Bulls
1. Michael Jordan 430.97 (1985-1993, 1995-1998)
2. Scottie Pippen 213.2 (1988-1998, 2003)
3. Derrick Rose1 04.3 (2009-Present)
4. Bob Love 95 (1969-1977)
5. Jerry Sloan 88.4 (1967-1976)
6. Norm Van Lier 84.3 (1972-1978)
7. Horace Grant 80.3 (1988-1994)
8. Artis Gilmore 79.5 (1977-1982, 1988)
9. Chet Walker 76.8 (1970-1975)
10. Toni Kukoc 73.2 (1994-2000)

Cleveland Cavaliers
1. LeBron James 185.4 (2004-2010)
2. Mark Price 100.4 (1987-1995)
3. Brad Daugherty 92.2 (1987-1994)
4. Zydrunas Ilgauskas 81.7 (1998-2010)
5. Larry Nance 72.3 (1988-1994)
6. Austin Carr 59.6 (1972-1980)
7. John "Hot Rod" Williams 59.2 (1987-1995)
8. Campy Russell 55.6 (1974-1980, 1985)
9. Terrell Brandon 55.4 (1992-1997)
10. Bingo Smith 54.9 (1971-1980)

Dallas Mavericks
1. *Dirk Nowitzki 227.3 (1999-Present)
2. Rolando Blackman 86.6 (1982-1992)
3. Mark Aguirre 80.8 (1982-1989)
4. Michael Finley 73.9 (1997-2005)
5. *Jason Kidd 72.1 (1994-1997, 2007-Present)
6. Derek Harper 70.6 (1984-1997)
7. Steve Nash 65.2 (1999-2004)
8. *Jason Terry 65 (2005-2011)
9. Josh Howard 60.2 (2004-2010)
10. Brad Davis 59.1 (1981-1992)

Denver Nuggets (Denver Nuggets-ABA, Denver Rockets)
1. Alex English 136 (1980-1990)
2. David Thompson 107.8 (1976-1982)
3. Ralph Simpson 104.3 (1971-1978)
4. Carmelo Anthony 102.3 (2004-2011)
5. Dan Issel 94.5 (1976-1985)
6. Larry Jones 90.7 (1968-1970)
7. Bobby Jones 79 (1975-1978)
8. Lafayette "Fat" Lever 76.4 (1985-1990)
9. Byron Beck 76.3 (1968-1977)
10. Dikembe Mutombo 66.9 (1992-1996)

Detroit Pistons (Fort Wayne Pistons)
1. Isiah Thomas 206.6 (1982-1994)
2. Joe Dumars 155.3 (1986-1999)
3. *Ben Wallace 129.4 (2000-2006, 2009-Present)
4. Dave Bing 116.7 (1967-1975)
5. Grant Hill 115.8 (1995-2000)
6. Bill Laimbeer 114.7 (1982-1994)
7. Bob Lanier 109.5 (1971-1980)
8. Larry Foust 109.3 (1951-1957)
9. Chauncey Billups 105.9 (2003-2009)
10. George Yardley 101.5 (1954-1959)

Golden State Warriors (San Francisco Warriors, Philadelphia Warriors)
1. Wilt Chamberlain 186.6 (1960-1965)
2. Rick Barry 180.5 (1965-1967, 1972-1978)
3. Paul Arizin 164.2 (1951-1962)
4. Neil Johnston 138.2 (1952-1959)
5. Nate Thurmond 130 (1964-1974)
6. Chris Mullin 120.4 (1986-1997, 2001)
7. Joe Fulks 103.9 (1947-1954)
8. Jeff Mullins 95.6 (1967-1976)
9. Tom Gola 87.2 (1956-1963)
10.(tie) Tim Hardaway 77.7 (1990-1996)
10.(tie) Guy Rodgers 77.7 (1959-1966)

Houston Rockets (San Diego Rockets)
1. Hakeem Olajuwon 306.35 (1985-2001)
2. Moses Malone 142.5 (1977-1982)
3. Yao Ming 119.4 (2003-2011)
4. Rudy Tomjanovich 97.5 (1971-1981)
5. Ralph Sampson 85.3 (1984-1988)
6. Tracy McGrady 82.2 (2005-2010)
7. Calvin Murphy 81.4 (1971-1983)
8. Elvin Hayes 79.7 (1969-1971)
9. Clyde Drexler 72 (1995-1998)
10. Steve Francis 70.3 (2000-2008)

Indiana Pacers
1. Mel Daniels 162.8 (1969-1974)
2. Reggie Miller 139.6 (1988-2005)
3. Roger Brown 130 (1968-1975)
4. George McGinnis 125.6 (1972-1975, 1976-1982)
5. Jermaine O'Neal 105.9 (2001-2008)
6. Bob Netolicky 105.7 (1968-1976)
7. Freddie Lewis 97.9 (1968-1977)
8. Rik Smits 84.8 (1989-2000)
9. Billy Knight 77.2 (1975-1983)
10. Dale Davis 74.7 (1992-2000, 2004)

Los Angeles Clippers (Buffalo Braves, San Diego Clippers)
1. Bob McAdoo 109.9 (1973-1977)
2. Randy Smith 73.8 (1972-1983)
3. Elton Brand 73.5 (2002-2008)
4. Danny Manning 60.9 (1989-1994)
5. Bob Kauffman 56.9 (1971-1974)
6. *Chris Kaman 53.2 (2004-Present)
7. Corey Maggette 50.9 (2001-2008)
8. Ron Harper 49.3 (1990-1994)
9. Loy Vaught 49.2 (1991-1998)
10. Swen Nater 45.9 (1978-1983)

Los Angeles Lakers (Minneapolis Lakers)
1. *Kobe Bryant 342.3 (1997-Present)
2. Magic Johnson 334.6 (1980-1996)
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 316.5 (1976-1989)
4. Jerry West 313.5 (1961-1974)
5. Elgin Baylor 274.2 (1959-1972)
6. Shaquille O’Neal 232.6 (1997-2004)
7. George Mikan 172.8 (1949-1956)
8. James Worthy 153.2 (1983-1994)
9. Slater Martin 129.2 (1950-1956)
10. Michael Cooper 125.8 (1979-1990)

Memphis Grizzlies (Vancouver Grizzlies)
1. Pau Gasol 64.9 (2002-2008)
2. Shareef Abdur-Rahim 49.5 (1997-2001)
3. Mike Miller 47.8 (2003-2008)
4. *Rudy Gay 42.7 (2007-Present)
5. *Shane Battier 40.9 (2002-2006, 2010-Present)
6. Bryant "Big Country" Reeves 40.5 (1996-2001)
7. Stromile Swift 39.2 (2001-2008)
8. Jason Williams 39.1 (2002-2005, 2011)
9. Lorenzen Wright 36.9 (2002-2006)
10. Mike Bibby 36.4 (1999-2001)

Miami Heat
1. *Dwyane Wade 166.6 (2004-Present)
2. Alonzo Mourning 127.9 (1996-2002, 2004-2008)
3. Shaquille O'Neal 87.3 (2005-2008)
4. Tim Hardaway 81.7 (1996-2001)
5. *Udonis Haslem 63.1 (2004-Present)
6. Rony Seikaly 49.2 (1989-1994)
7. Eddie Jones 49 (2001-2007)
8. Glen Rice 48.2 (1990-1995)
9. Grant Long 45.5 (1989-1995)
10. Keith Askins 43.7 (1991-1999)

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Milwaukee Bucks
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 201 (1970-1975)
2. Sidney Moncrief 139.8 (1980-1989)
3. Marques Johnson 102.3 (1978-1984)
4. Bobby Dandridge 92.1 (1970-1977, 1982)
5. Terry Cummings 73.8 (1985-1989, 1996)
6. Ray Allen 73.1 (1997-2003)
7. *Michael Redd 71.4 (2001-Present)
8. Glenn Robinson 70.1 (1995-2002)
9. Oscar Robertson 70.1 (1971-1974)
10. Jon McGlocklin 68.2 (1969-1976)

Minnesota Timberwolves
1. Kevin Garnett 204.6 (1996-2007)
2. Wally Szczerbiak 53.6 (2000-2006)
3. Tom Gugliotta 51.2 (1995-1998)
4. Sam Mitchell 50.8 (1990-1992, 1996-2002)
5. Terrell Brandon 44.6 (1999-2002)
6. Kevin Love 43.8 (2009-2011)
7. Doug West 43.6 (1990-1998)
8. Al Jefferson 43.3 (2008-2010)
9. Christian Laettner 43 (1993-1996)
10. Stephon Marbury 40.5 (1997-1999)

Brooklyn Nets (New Jersey Americans, New York Nets, New Jersey Nets)
1. Julius Erving 144.8 (1974-1976)
2. Jason Kidd 121.1 (2002-2008)
3. Bill Melchionni 86.7 (1970-1976)
4. Buck Williams 85 (1982-1989)
5. Brian Taylor 73.7 (1973-1976)
6. Billy Paultz 72.1 (1971-1975)
7. Vince Carter 68.7 (2005-2009)
8. Derrick Coleman 67.9 (1991-1995)
9. "Super" John Williamson 62.6 (1974-1980)
10. Richard Jefferson 61.2 (2002-2008)

New Orleans Hornets (Charlotte Hornets, New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets)
1. Chris Paul 99.5 (2006-Present)
2. Larry Johnson 69.1 (1992-1996)
3. Glen Rice 66.1 (1996-1998)
4. *David West 64.3 (2004-2011)
5. Baron Davis 64 (2000-2005)
6. Alonzo Mourning 57.9 (1993-1995)
7. Dell Curry 57.2 (1989-1998)
8. Jamal Mashburn 56.7 (2001-2004)
9. Tyrone "Mugsy" Bogues 55 (1989-1998)
10. David Wesley 54.6 (1998-2005)

New York Knicks
1. Patrick Ewing 205.6 (1986-2000)
2. Willis Reed 191.9 (1965-1974)
3. Walt "Clyde" Frazier 186.7 (1968-1977)
4. Harry Gallatin 124.1 (1949-1957)
5. Dave DeBusschere118.8 (1969-1974)
6. Carl Braun 108 (1948-1961)
7. Richie Guerin 103.8 (1957-1964)
8. Bill Bradley 85 (1968-1977)
9. Dick Barnett 82.3 (1966-1974)
10. Charles Oakley 77.7 (1989-1998)

Oklahoma City Thunder (Seattle SuperSonics)
1. Gary Payton 199.2 (1991-2003)
2. Jack Sikma 113.6 (1978-1986)
3. Shawn Kemp 106.4 (1990-1997)
4. Spencer Haywood 102.7 (1971-1975)
5. Gus Williams 90.3 (1978-1984)
6. Fred Brown 82.1 (1972-1984)
7. *Kevin Durant 81.6 (2008-Present)
8. Ray Allen 76 (2003-2007)
9. Dennis Johnson 75.5 (1977-1980)
10. Nate McMillan 73.9 (1987-1998)

Orlando Magic
1. *Dwight Howard 142.8 (2006-Present)
2. Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway 99.7 (1994-1999)
3. Tracy McGrady 98.9 (2001-2004)
4. Shaquille O'Neal 97.9 (1993-1996)
5. Nick Anderson 63.6 (1990-1999)
6. *Jameer Nelson 57.7 (2005-Present)
7. Darrell Armstrong 56.5 (1995-2003)
8. Grant Hill 54.9 (2001-2007)
9. Horace Grant 54.3 (1995-2003)
10. Rashard Lewis 50.1 (2008-2011)

Philadelphia 76ers (Syracuse Nationals)
1. Dolph Schayes 253.7 (1950-1964)
2. Julius Erving 217.5 (1977-1987)
3. Hal Greer 187.7 (1959-1973)
4. Allen Iverson 176.6 (1997-2007, 2010)
5. Wilt Chamberlain 163.3 (1965-1968)
6. Charles Barkley 150.1 (1985-1992)
7. Billy Cunningham 128.4 (1966-1976)
8. Moses Malone 122.5 (1983-1994)
9. Maurice Cheeks 113.7 (1979-1989)
10. Larry Costello 111.4 (1958-1968)

Phoenix Suns
1. *Steve Nash 143.8 (1996-1998, 2004-Present)
2. Kevin Johnson 124.9 (1988-2000)
3. Amare Stoudemire 118.3 (2003-2010)
4. Charles Barkley 112 (1993-1996)
5. Walter Davis 110.7 (1978-1988)
6. Paul Westphal 107.1 (1976-1984)
7. Alvan Adams 89.9 (1976-1988)
8. Shawn Marion 89.6 (2000-2008)
9. Jason Kidd 86.9 (1997-2001)
10. Tom Chambers 82.5 (1989-1993)

Portland Trailblazers
1. Clyde Drexler 151.7 (1984-1995)
2. Bill Walton 105.9 (1975-1978)
3. Terry Porter 85.4 (1986-1995)
4. Maurice Lucas 77 (1977-1980, 1988)
5. Cliff Robinson 76.5 (1990-1997)
6. Sidney Wicks 75.9 (1972-1976)
7. Jerome Kersey 74.9 (1985-1995)
8. *Brandon Roy 73.5 (2007-Present)
9. Rasheed Wallace 72 (1997-2004)
10. Jim Paxson 72 (1980-1988)

Sacramento Kings (Kansas City, Kansas City-Omaha, Cincinnati, Rochester Royals)
1. Oscar Robertson 230.6 (1961-1970)
2. Jerry Lucas 137.7 (1964-1970)
3. Bob Davies 120.1 (1949-1955)
4. Chris Webber 116.4 (1999-2005)
5. Jack Twyman 107.1 (1956-1966)
6. Bobby Wanzer 106.9 (1949-1957)
7. Mitch Richmond 106.2 (1992-1998)
8. Nate Archibald 101.1 (1971-1976)
9. Arnie Risen 92.8 (1949-1955)
10. Wayne Embry 85 (1959-1966)

San Antonio Spurs (Texas Chaparrals, Dallas Chaparrals)
1. *Tim Duncan 351.8 (1998-Present)
2. David Robinson 256.4 (1990-2003)
3. George Gervin 203.8 (1974-1982)
4. *Tony Parker 115.7 (2002-Present)
5. *Manu Ginobili 100.2 (2003-Present)
6. James Silas 86 (1973-1981)
7. Sean Elliott 84 (1990-2001)
8. Alvin Robertson 78.4 (1985-1989)
9. Bruce Bowen 76.7 (2002-2009)
10. John Beasley 75.9 (1968-1972)

Toronto Raptors
1. Vince Carter 93.9 (1999-2005)
2. Chris Bosh 86.6 (2004-2010)
3. Antonio Davis 51.5 (2000-2006)
4. Damon Stoudamire 46 (1996-1998)
5. Alvin Williams 44.7 (1998-2006)
6. Morris Peterson 42.9 (2001-2007)
7. Doug Christie 40.4 (1996-2000)
8. *Jose Calderon 40.3 (2006-Present)
9. *Andrea Bargnani 39.6 (2007-Present)
10. Jalen Rose 32.8 (2004-2006)

Utah Jazz (New Orleans Jazz)
1. Karl Malone 324 (1985-2003)
2. John Stockton 226.8 (1984-2003)
3. Adrian Dantley 103.8 (1980-1986)
4. Pistol Pete Maravich 90.8 (1975-1980)
5. Mark Eaton 82.6 (1983-1993)
6. Deron Williams 74.4 (2006-2011)
7. Carlos Boozer 71.6 (2005-2010)
8. *Andrei Kirilenko 69.3 (2002-Present)
9. Thurl Bailey 61.8 (1984-1992, 1999)
10. Darrell Griffith 60.6 (1981-1991)

Washington Wizards (Washington Capitals & Bal Bullets, Chicago Zephyrs/Packers)
1. Elvin Hayes 168.5 (1973-1981)
2. Wes Unseld 154.7 (1969-1981)
3. Gus Johnson 114 (1964-1972)
4. Gilbert Arenas 89.9 (2004-2011)
5. Phil Chenier 88.5 (1972-1980)
6. Walt Bellamy 77.1 (1962-1966)
7. Earl Monroe 75.5 (1968-1972)
8. Bobby Dandridge 65.3 (1978-1981)
9. Antawn Jamison 65 (2005-2010)
10. Greg Ballard 63.8 (1978-1985)



The 300 Club (Players with a FPVR of 300 or better with one team), in order:
Michael Jordan 430.97
Tim Duncan 351.8
Bill Russell 350.9
Kobe Bryant 342.3
Magic Johnson 334.6
Karl Malone 324
Larry Bird 318.6
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Lakers) 316.5
Jerry West 313.5
John Havlicek 307.9
Hakeem Olajuwon 306.35


-The Lakers have the most players with a 300 points or better (four)

-Players that appear on the most top 10 FPVR's (Jason Kidd, Shaquille O'Neal: three times each)

-Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade, Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant are the only active players atop their team's FPVR.

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-Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade and Kobe Bryant are the only active players atop their team's FPVR.

You forgot Duncan.
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Good catch.

It should be bleacher report that forgot, but oh well. We do the proof reading around here on ISH, haha.
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Interesting, thanks for sharing that
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according to this, kareem>jordan
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LOL, no Paul Pierce for the Celtics.
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according to this, kareem>jordan
Jordan and Kareem never played on the same team. this is not for comparing players on different teams

I'm surprised Dan Majerle isn't on the Suns list

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I imagine Kobe is at the top because he's played for the Lakers his entire career so has had more time to contribute. Magic didn't play for the Lakers as long as Kobe, neither did Shaq or KAJ
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Just updated the post.

Yes longevity is highly valued, but so is the franchise value. If that makes sense.
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LOL, no Paul Pierce for the Celtics.

Yeah, check the first post now.

The Celtics were such a dynasty, that whoever won with Bill Russell, was going to get higher on that list.
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Kobe at the top?

Not surprising at all really, according to the formula.
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Jordan and Kareem never played on the same team. this is not for comparing players on different teams

I'm surprised Dan Majerle isn't on the Suns list

According to the forumula, not enough accolades, long playoff runs, etc.. to the other 10 mentioned.
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