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Old 10-15-2011, 06:14 AM   #31
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Default Re: ESPN: NBA Player's Performance Overseas Already Damaging NBA Brand

Well you do understand you are talking about DeJuan Blair right? The best player in the NBA?

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Old 10-15-2011, 06:15 AM   #32
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Every fvckin thread


Euroleague : "(NBA player here) sucks the Euroleague is the best!"
Random Poster : "He put up good numbers in a game."
Euroleague : " HE DIDN'T PLAY IN THE EUROLEAGUE ANTHONY PARKER IS NOT OUR 2xMVP "



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Old 10-15-2011, 06:17 AM   #33
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You say tolerating him as if he is a piece of shit. Note: He was the starting PG for a team that beat the field at the WC.


-He plays on a team where is is the only reliable offensive threat.
-The Bulls haven't had a good offense since Phil Jackson left.
-Thibs is not an offensive strategist--our offense is a work in progress
-We had 7 new players last year
-Rose is still learning the game, yet we ask him to score, score, score....he doesn't chuck.

But you can't see this because you're too blind to even recognize top tier talent when you see it.

D-Rose would be the best PG in Europe hands down.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:19 AM   #34
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No one is talking about anyone else. This is a convo between you and me.

Stop trying to bring other unsupported views into the equation.

Voting for an MVP based off of team play (solely) is dumb as rocks).

It is not based solely off team play. Euroleague MVP candidates are picked by fan ballot in arenas. Then the candidates that are picked get voted for online by fans. Anyone in the world can vote, once a day.

Then 25% of that online fan vote is added to 75% of the media vote. The media has to follow certain rules.

1. Only candidates the fans picked can be voted for.

2. Only players from top 4 teams (like think conf. finals in NBA) can be voted for.

3. Team play must be taken as the criteria, instead of individual play.


So it is actually, team success, fans, and team play that is the criteria. But this just makes it all the more retarded that so many idiots here keep acting like Euroleague MVP is the same thing as NBA MVP. It is a totally different criteria and award.

So people posting pics of Parker trying to derail threads are just trolls and have no point and are not even logical.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:20 AM   #35
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Every fvckin thread


Euroleague : "(NBA player here) sucks the Euroleague is the best!"
Random Poster : "He put up good numbers in a game."
Euroleague : " HE DIDN'T PLAY IN THE EUROLEAGUE ANTHONY PARKER IS NOT OUR 2xMVP "




I never said that.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:20 AM   #36
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For the vast majority of American NBA only fans, yes. They still keep saying Deron Williams plays in Euroleague. If a guy plays in Swedish League, they call it "Euroleague". They simply refuse to acknowledge that there is only one Euroleague, and instead count all European leagues as "the Euroleague".

Even after you explain it to them about 100 times.
I guess it is because of how US sports leagues work, they just assume that there is one single closed league in all of Europe and that every single player in Europe......plays in "Euroleague".

It's pathetic I know, but that's obviously how the vast majority of American NBA only fans view European basketball. Everything, even a domestic game in Austria, or a second division game in Belgium is "Euroleague".
American people don't need to know about inferior leagues. It's ridiculous. It's like having Messi next to you and you still want to meet Puyol.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:21 AM   #37
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You say tolerating him as if he is a piece of shit. Note: He was the starting PG for a team that beat the field at the WC.


-He plays on a team where is is the only reliable offensive threat.
-The Bulls haven't had a good offense since Phil Jackson left.
-Thibs is not an offensive strategist--our offense is a work in progress
-We had 7 new players last year
-Rose is still learning the game, yet we ask him to score, score, score....he doesn't chuck.

But you can't see this because you're too blind to even recognize top tier talent when you see it.

D-Rose would be the best PG in Europe hands down.


He would be an epic disaster in Euroleague. So would guys like Russell Westbrook and Tyreke Evans. FYI, you claimed that Ty Lawson would be "the best point guard in Europe" and already fans of his team want him off the team.

In other words, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:22 AM   #38
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He would be an epic disaster in Euroleague. So would guys like Russell Westbrook and Tyreke Evans. FYI, you claimed that Ty Lawson would be "the best point guard in Europe" and already fans of his team want him off the team.

In other words, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Your argument is always the same "Some fans don't want him" "I heard it somewhere" "a friend told me" You never present FACTUAL information, it's all based on... your delusional mind.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:22 AM   #39
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He would be an epic disaster in Euroleague. So would guys like Russell Westbrook. FYI, you claimed that Ty Lawson would be "the best point guard in Europe" and already fans of his team want him off the team.

In other words, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

So just because fans of his team want him off means that he is doing poorly or can't preform well?

It takes some time to go from one league to another, especially for smaller guys with lots of responsibility.

You discredit players by insinuating they cannot adjust and adapt.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:23 AM   #40
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No I'm not. The image proves that if a scrub like Anthony Parker is a 2 time MVP in europe that means the NBA is still the best league in the world by far. BY FAR. The Blair thing is just a particular case.


You are a troll. Euroleague MVP is in no way related to NBA MVP. You falsely claim it is, which makes you a troll. Besides that, there are numerous other ridiculous things about your BS claim.

Blair is not one case. Deron Williams played like crap in his only official games. Besides that, several NBA starters/6th men from NBA playoff teams have gone to Euroleague in recent years and been average, or actually bad players.

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Old 10-15-2011, 06:24 AM   #41
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It is not based solely off team play. Euroleague MVP candidates are picked by fan ballot in arenas. Then the candidates that are picked get voted for online by fans. Anyone in the world can vote, once a day.

Then 25% of that online fan vote is added to 75% of the media vote. The media has to follow certain rules.

1. Only candidates the fans picked can be voted for.

2. Only players from top 4 teams (like think conf. finals in NBA) can be voted for.

3. Team play must be taken as the criteria, instead of individual play.


So it is actually, team success, fans, and team play that is the criteria. But this just makes it all the more retarded that so many idiots here keep acting like Euroleague MVP is the same thing as NBA MVP. It is a totally different criteria and award.

So people posting pics of Parker trying to derail threads are just trolls and have no point and are not even logical.

Point that finger at yourself as well then. The MVP is based off of TEAM success as well....no MVP comes from a losing team.

Rose helped the Bulls...no, carried the Bulls at times to the best record in the NBA.

Wins>>>>>>Stats


All day...and that's in America, Europe, Uganda, Mexico, wherever.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:24 AM   #42
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You are a troll. Euroelague MVP is in no way related to NBA MVP. You falsely claim it is, which makes you a troll. Besides that, there are numerous other ridiculous things about your BS claim.
Michael Jordan at 48 years old would dominate in europe.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:26 AM   #43
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You are a troll. Euroelague MVP is in no way related to NBA MVP. You falsely claim it is, which makes you a troll. Besides that, there are numerous other ridiculous things about your BS claim.

Blair is not one case. Deron Williams played like crap in his only official games. Besides that, several NBA starters/6th men from NBA playoff teams have gone to Euroleague in recent years and been average, or actually bad players.


So not ONE NBA player that has gone overseas has done well?


Does that have something to do with the fact that NBA stars don't go to Euroleague in their primes while their European/foreign counterparts come to the NBA in their prime?
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:26 AM   #44
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American people don't need to know about inferior leagues. It's ridiculous. It's like having Messi next to you and you still want to meet Puyol.
You like being an ignorant? great for you
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:28 AM   #45
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You like being an ignorant? great for you


Being uninterested=being ignorant when it comes to foreign basketball?
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