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Old 10-15-2011, 05:29 AM   #46
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D-Rose would be the best PG in Europe hands down.
I'm not so sure about that.
I'm not saying he'd suck (don't think so), but I'd like to see how his game translates to the FIBA rules before giving him the "best PG" label. They were saying the same about Deron Williams and he's still adjusting.
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You like being an ignorant? great for you
I'm argentinian and I know a lot about Fiba basketball. My point is, the NBA is CLEARLY better so, you can't blame american people for not being interested in the euroleague. They aren't obligated to know about every league and they already have the best players in the world.
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Being uninterested=being ignorant when it comes to foreign basketball?
Posting about things he doesn't understand while making no effort to get the facts right is really stupid.
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American people don't need to know about inferior leagues. It's ridiculous. It's like having Messi next to you and you still want to meet Puyol.

American NBA only fans don't seem to know anything about basketball, nor sports in general.
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I'm argentinian and I know a lot about Fiba basketball. My point is, the NBA is CLEARLY better so, you can't blame american people for not being interested in the euroleague. They aren't obligated to know about every league and they already have the best players in the world.
Is it that hard to get that Euroleague is just one league the best teams play, not a domestic one? Seems easy to me.
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I'm not so sure about that.
I'm not saying he'd suck (don't think so), but I'd like to see how his game translates to the FIBA rules before giving him the "best PG" label. They were saying the same about Deron Williams and he's still adjusting.


I honestly believe these guys are playing to stay in shape and not giving 100% for fear of injury.

Add that to the language barrier, time adjustments, etc, etc it could take a season or so to get into the groove.

Of course I was using hyperbole to counteract Lakas'...who knows where Rose would rank...my real point is he'd be far from a buster.
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American NBA only fans don't seem to know anything about basketball, nor sports in general.
So what? Is so important in life to know about sports? Don't we watch basketball because we enjoy it and that's it? You have problems if you are this mad because "American NBA only fans don't know anything about basketball" it's their problem, not yours.
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Your argument is always the same "Some fans don't want him" "I heard it somewhere" "a friend told me" You never present FACTUAL information, it's all based on... your delusional mind.

You mean like the delusion of people like you?

"Deron Williams will be the best point guard in Europe".

"Ty Lawson will be the best point guard in Europe".

You are 0 for 2, and yet, you keep up with the BS of "Derrick Rose would be the best point guard in Europe".

I'm sorry, but you know nothing about basketball, at all.
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Of course I was using hyperbole to counteract Lakas'...who knows where Rose would rank...my real point is he'd be far from a buster.
This is the problem here lately.
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Posting about things he doesn't understand while making no effort to get the facts right is really stupid.
Trying to get facts from Lakas is stupid as well.

I've asked him tens of venerable questions about Euroleague and have stated multiple times that I actually like Euro style of play (passing, not too guard oriented, all 5 players having tools/less specialists, less emphasis on star players) more than the NBA and I respect the league but he continues on his tirade.

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You mean like the delusion of people like you?

"Deron Williams will be the best point guard in Europe".

"Ty Lawson will be the best point guard in Europe".

You are 0 for 2, and yet, you keep up with the BS of "Derrick Rose would be the best point guard in Europe".

I'm sorry, but you know nothing about basketball, at all.
Oh right. You got me, I know nothing about basketball and you keep saying that Rose would be a disaster in europe when way worse players have succeeded
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This is the problem here lately.
It's not a problem when the statement is not THAT outrageous and the person who stated the aforementioned comment is willing to clarify respectfully.
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So just because fans of his team want him off means that he is doing poorly or can't preform well?

It takes some time to go from one league to another, especially for smaller guys with lots of responsibility.

You discredit players by insinuating they cannot adjust and adapt.


Euroleague player doing badly in NBA = "Euro scrub that sucks and is not good enough to hack it in the big boy league".

NBA player doing badly in Euroleague = "He's just not trying. He's just being lazy. Why would he care? Oh yeah, and of course it's the different rules. How could he be expected to do well?"

Of course, this is 2 weeks after when the same player when he signed in Europe was supposedly this, from NBA only fans -> "Automatic GOAT in Europe. He will drop 50 a game on those Euro scrubs".


Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?
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It's not a problem when the statement is not THAT outrageous and the person who stated the aforementioned comment is willing to clarify respectfully.
I meant the "Lakas says something way too extreme, some other poster answer with a similar post" thing.
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Euroleague player doing badly in NBA = "Euro scrub that sucks and is not good enough to hack it in the big boy league".

NBA player doing badly in Euroleague = "He's just not trying. He's just being lazy. Why would he care? Oh yeah, and of course it's the different rules. How could he be expected to do well?"

Of course, this is 2 weeks after when the same player when he signed in Europe was supposedly this, from NBA only fans -> "Automatic GOAT in Europe. He will drop 50 a game on those Euro scrubs".


Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?


I get you...but the way you post incites other posters to type mess along with you. I've never said that all Euros were scrubs or that Euroleague is a scrub league. I played ball at a high level with D-1 and NBA talent and I can say without a doubt that Europe has top notch ballers.

I feel that the gap is in between our stars and Euro stars. America concentrates so much on the individual to our credit and hindrance.

The development of stars has created an awesome/wealthy league but it has also degraded the game some.

Did I expect D Will to do better? Yes.
Can he? Of course.
Is is startling that upon being challenged by Euro talent that wants a piece of him that he came to Greece out of shape and underestimating his peers? I think not.
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