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Old 10-23-2011, 04:15 AM   #31
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And what about the genocide in the Sudan as well.

Sudan got hit hard.
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Libya about to get raped for the next few decades. Enjoy paying for your own education now. Everybody is about to get dibs. United States got 1st.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:22 AM   #33
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Libya about to get raped for the next few decades. Enjoy paying for your own education now. Everybody is about to get dibs. United States got 1st.

Nah, prolly France.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:22 AM   #34
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Libya about to get raped for the next few decades. Enjoy paying for your own education now. Everybody is about to get dibs. United States got 1st.
Yeah I saw that "the rebels" started up a bank
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Yeah I saw that "the rebels" started up a bank
what's this suppose to mean?

anyways, they want to form their new Central Bank. they better hope these cacs are one of their backbones to dig their way out of depth or forever stay there.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:31 AM   #36
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what's this suppose to mean?

anyways, they want to form their new Central Bank. they better hope these cacs are one of their backbones to dig their way out of depth or forever stay there.
One of the links you provided stated that the rothschilds set up a bank in libya under the name of the rebellion.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:35 AM   #37
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i just read how gaddaffi was setting up its own money system for all of africa which was gonna do away with the franc..

werent the french the first to attack libya with nato?

interesting
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I'm more inclined to side with Tunisia than Libya.
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Operation Liberate Libya AKA Illiterate Libya
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Old 10-23-2011, 11:29 AM   #40
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So are you like a black supremacist or something? You don't care if he kills white people as long as he helps black people, sounds pretty hypocritical.

Btw good post, didn't know a lot of that info. Repped for that.
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So are you like a black supremacist or something? You don't care if he kills white people as long as he helps black people, sounds pretty hypocritical.

Btw good post, didn't know a lot of that info. Repped for that.
Actually, I went too far when I said I don't care, but my point still stands that he did more than what other leaders were afraid and didn't care to do with blacks. There's a little respect factor for him from Pan Africa.
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Old 10-23-2011, 11:40 AM   #42
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All that money he raised just went directly to tyrants and dictators who used the money to buy G6s and lambos and flats in London and guns and tanks to kill their own people.


These "Save Africa" charities are a joke, nothing but a direct line of donation into lunatic dictator's pockets
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Kenya was yesterday left at a diplomatic crossroads after rebel forces swept through the Libyan capital ending Muammar Gaddafi's 42-year grip on power in the oil rich North African state.



Nairobi, which has only recently rebuffed the Obama administration's pressure to freeze Gaddafi's multi-million shillings investments in Kenya, appeared unmoved with Sunday events that saw the rebels enter Tripoli and capture the Libyan leader's two sons.The Gaddafi administration's symbol of power - the green flag - continued to flutter atop the Nairobi Embassy yesterday, affirming Kenya's continued recognition of the besieged strongman as the Libyan leader despite signs that his stay in power had become untenable.

Calls went unanswered at the Loita Street office but the green flag made a clear statement that the regime change in Tripoli had yet to get official recognition in Kenya.

Muammar Gaddafi's government was last evening tottering on the brink of total collapse as rebels - helped by NATO helicopter gunships - swept through Tripoli with little resistance.

In several European nations, the rebels' crescent and star emblazoned red-black-green flag replaced Gaddafi's green flag, a symbol of his revolution that was adopted in 1977.

At Nairobi's Laico Regency, owned by the Gaddafi government's Libya Arab African Investment Company (Laico), it was business as usual as guests and tourists flocked to the five-star hotel as if oblivious of the changes.

Last month, the Kenya government said it won't "accede to pressure by third-parties" to sever diplomatic ties with Libya or freeze the regime's assets in Kenya.

Acting Foreign Affairs minister, Prof George Saitoti said the matter would be forwarded to the African Union.

Gaddafi regime has been close to the Kibaki government ever since the Kenyan leader made a State Visit to Tripoli in June 2007.

To expand Libya's commercial influence in Africa, Gaddafi had his country admitted to the Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (Comesa), promising cheap oil to member states that were being economically strangled by rising oil prices.



Libya's entry into the Comesa in 2005 not only gave Gaddafi a strong foothold in the region but also offered his companies a stepping stone to competing with established western interests for lucrative tenders.In Kenya, the Gaddafi regime's interest has been represented by Uhuru Highway-based Laico Regency and the Libya Oil Kenya Limited, whose flagship is the Oilibya brand.

The two are backed by the $5 billion Libya Africa Portfolio for Investments (LAP) investment fund that Gaddafi established five years ago.

Initially, Libya Oil Kenya had planned intended to serve as the distribution arm of Libya's oil wealth. The plan however ran into trouble because of inadequate fuel storage facilities in Kenya forcing the company to playing in the retail market -- in the hope that once the storage capacity improved it would have a firm foot in the region.

The entry of Gaddafi in Kenya's business scene followed a meeting by former Narc chairman, the late Alex Mureithi shortly after Kanu was swept out of power in 2002.

Mr Mureithi, a relative of President Kibaki, was pivotal in seeking early contacts in Tripoli and wooing Libyan investors to East Africa.

Soon, a Libyan company had placed a bid to build an oil pipeline from Eldoret to Uganda and another to supply five countries in the region with oil products from a Ugandan refinery.

Gaddafi combined this commercial entry with politics and used his influence to purchase choice service stations in Kenya in 2007 with the exit of Mobil Oil from Kenya.

It was at the same time that Tamoil Africa Holdings Limited, which is fully owned by the Gaddafi regime through the Libyan-African Investment Portfolio (LAP), bid to acquire downstream assets of the American company, ExxonMobil.



These included the Mobil's network of 64 retail service stations, a blending plant for lubricants in Mombasa, the aviation business, terminals at Mombasa and Nairobi and fuel depots in Nakuru, Eldoret and Kisumu.A year earlier, Tamoil had signed an agreement with the ministry of energy - then headed by Kiraitu Murungi - in which Libya was to provide Kenya with petroleum products at concessional rates.

Coming at a time when the Kibaki government was short of western friends and was looking east for economic bolsters, the Libyan friendship came with no strings attached.In 2007, Kibaki and Gaddafi signed an agreement that included the opening of direct air transport between the two countries and the formation of a Joint Commission for Bilateral Co-operation - giving Libyan diplomat and foreign affairs officials a chance to see Kibaki at his hotel room; whenever he went for AU meetings.

With this closeness, Kenya was hoping that it would be able to tap into US$ 5 billion investment plan that Gaddafi's had put aside for Africa.

Among the projects that Mr Kibaki discussed with the Libyan government are the Tamoil undertaking to upgrade of the Kenya Oil Refinery and construction of a Liquefied Petroleum Gas import storage and distribution facility in Mombasa.These may now go with Gaddafi.

The most significant for the business community was the trade agreement in which Libya and Kenya agreed to grant each other most favoured nation treatment in all matters relating to customs duties. This saw several Kenya traders open shop in Tripoli and had to be airlifted as the uprising on Gaddafi began.The fate of the Gaddafi investments in Kenya now lies in limbo.

At first, the Libyan African Arab Investment Company had shown interest in setting up a 5-6 Star hotel in Nairobi before the Grand Regency hotel was dangled to them.

The sale, whose controversy and secrecy has the hallmarks of deals with the Gaddafi government, sparked a national row that saw the then Finance Minister, Amos Kimunya step aside.

The Governor of the Central Bank, Prof Njuguna Ndung'u, was to tell a commission that was investigating the sale that the government offered the hotel to the Libyans without tendering.

Grand Regency was a public property and its sale should not have been shrouded in any secrecy whatever value it was given. The Libyans were also preparing to set up a Conference Centre in Mombasa before the Arab world revolts started toppling the ageing regimes.

Gaddafi had hoped that his US$.5 billion investment plan in Africa might shield him. Ironically, he supported various rebel movements in Africa in 1970s and 80s and fell out with former President Moi in 1986, who accused the Libyan Embassy of espionage.Moi not only closed the Libyan embassy but jailed several University of Nairobi student leaders.

While various governments - including the US - have handed the frozen Libyan assets to the rebels, Kenya has been left with Gaddafi assets that it has to make a political stand on.

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Old 10-23-2011, 11:58 AM   #44
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All that money he raised just went directly to tyrants and dictators who used the money to buy G6s and lambos and flats in London and guns and tanks to kill their own people.


These "Save Africa" charities are a joke, nothing but a direct line of donation into lunatic dictator's pockets
but it's okay when Uncle Sam does it huh? with Saudi Arabia and Egypt. That's just the ways things work. The American government for one doesn't give a damn about the "harsh" living these people are living. NATO don't give a sh1t about the Libyan people. It benefits them more having Gaddafi out of power than it does having him there. If they cared so much about the civilians, then why aren't they calling they're fukk buddy Saudi Arabia out for the same treatment to give?



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His name is scattered across the continent: a Gadhafi street here, a Gadhafi mosque there, several Gadhafi high-rises. Many African nations have named buildings and infrastructure projects after the long-time Libyan leader and the frequency with which the Gadhafi name appears underscores the powerful influence he still has over large swaths of the continent.

The African Development Bank reports that Libya now has about 260 million euros ($370 million) in its account there. Libya is one of the bank's leading regional shareholders and one of the biggest contributors to the 53-nation African Union.


"Libya is one of our bank's most important investors," said Emanuele Santi, the bank's country economist for Libya. "I don't think that Libya is going to pull his money out."

He said the Libyan leader has always shown great solidarity with Africa and done much to help other nations, which is why the bank had no intention at present of putting a freeze on his assets, like many western countries and institutions have done.

Big player in Africa

Observers estimate that Libya has invested a total of about six billion euros in other African countries. The investments range from large to small, from schools and hotels military arms to a saw mill, poultry farm and gasoline distributor. The countries where Libya has invested cover the entire continent, from Chad and Mali in the north down through Togo and Kenya to Zambia and South Africa.



The Tower of the Great Opening hotel in Khartoum, built with Libyan money

Many companies and major projects are still waiting impatiently for new capital infusions from the oil-rich North African state. But due to the fierce fighting there and the uncertainty about the future of the Gadhafi regime, an arrival of fresh cash in the near future is doubtful.

Libya owns two-thirds of troubled mobile phone operator Uganda Telecom, which is struggling under a debt load of some 10 million euros and its very survival looks to be at risk should no new Libyan funds be forthcoming.

According to Helmut Asche, director of the University of Leipzig's Institute of African Studies, other African companies could soon find themselves in similar straits.

The $5-billion Libya Arab Africa Investment Portfolio has been a major presence on the continent and under its telecom arm, LAP Green, it has become a major presence in Zambia, Uganda, Niger and the Ivory Coast.

Beyond the telecommunications sector, Libya owns a string of multi-billion-euro companies in Uganda, including the National Housing Construction Company, Tropical Bank, Laico Lake Victoria Hotel, Tamoil East Africa and OilLibya.


"If there are expectations that the Libyan government and their investment arms inject new capital into these companies, there is going to be a problem," Asche said.

European presence

Libya also has important investments in other parts of the world, including Europe, which has made EU leaders uncomfortable in the wake of the violence. Earlier this month, the EU expanded its sanctions to include the Libyan Investment Authority (LIA), also known as the Libyan Arab Foreign Investment Company.


Gadhafi has let his wallet speak in Africa
The $70 billion sovereign wealth fund is the overseas vehicle for investing Tripoli's oil revenue and is a potential source of funding for the regime.

The fund has investments in a range of assets from agriculture to real estate, financial firms, oil and gas and stocks and bonds. Among the fund's highest-profile investments is a 7.5 percent stake in Italian football club Juventus.

The LIA also owns more than 3 percent of publishing group Pearson, owner of the Financial Times newspaper. It has a stake in Italian bank UniCredit, more than 2 percent of Italian aerospace and defense company Finmeccanica, and nearly 2 percent of Italian carmaker Fiat, through a related investment vehicle.

This week, the EU agreed on a new series of sanctions, its third, against Gadhafi's regime which target individuals and financial entities, such as investment companies, foundations, banks and other state groups.

A fourth set of sanctions is due to be discussed in Brussels next week.

Gratitude to the dictator

While European governments have been fairly decisive about curtailing their economic relationships with the North African state, African leaders have been more reluctant. Largely, observers say, because Libya has been very generous to its less-well-off neighbors.


Gadhafi, who was crowned the "king of kings" by African kings and traditional leaders in the now rebel-held town of Benghazi in 2008, promised just last year to invest another 60 billion euros in the African economy.

One of the primary beneficiaries of this money has been the West African country of Burkina Faso, where Gadhafi's funds have been used to expand the nation's infrastructure and build a new medical clinic.



In Khartoum an upscale hotel was partially financed by Libya

The Burkina Faso government has traditionally had close ties to the Libyan leader and even the head of the country's opposition, Hama Arba Diallo, sees little about the relationship to criticize.

"Moammar Gadhafi has gladly helped us make the kind of large-scale investments that our government alone could not have done," he said. Despite the current conflict and the wide-spread criticism of Gadhafi in the wake of violence unleashed against Libya rebels, Arba Diallo believes no one in his country should be ungrateful to the north African leader.


With this kind of cross-party unanimity of opinion and the economic dependence of numerous countries and governments on Libyan largesse, it is little wonder that African criticism of Gadhafi has been muted.


Some African countries have implemented a UN resolution calling for member states to freeze Libya's assets.

South Africa was the first to do so and this week, Zambia's finance minister told the country's parliament that the government's share in a telecommunications company and other investments would be frozen.

According to analyst Asche, African countries would do well to wean themselves from their reliance on Libya's millions. Whether in the wake of the current upheaval, Gadhafi's pan-Africanism and his economic generosity remain intact is "more than questionable," he said
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here it is. A group of people supposely trying to move forward and away from the brutal regime of Gaddafi and yet not only is he assasinated "at the spot", but he is sodomized. These rebels are just looking for any reason to do something evil.

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SIRTE, Libya An analysis of video obtained by GlobalPost from a rebel fighter who recorded the moment when Col. Muammar Gaddafi was first captured confirms that another rebel fighter, whose identity is unknown, sodomized the former leader as he was being dragged from the drainpipe where he had taken cover.

A frame by frame analysis of this exclusive GlobalPost video clearly shows the rebel trying to insert some kind of stick or knife into Gaddafi's rear end.

Full coverage: Death of Muammar Gaddafi

GlobalPost correspondent Tracey Shelton said there is some question as to whether the instrument was a knife from the end of a gun, which Libyans call a Bicketti, or a utilitiy tool known as a Becker Knife and Tool, which is popularly known as a BKT.

This latest video discovery comes as international and human rights groups call for a formal investigation into how the former Libyan leader was killed. In video clips that have emerged of his capture, Gaddafi can be seen injured but alive. Later he is seen with what appears to be gunshot wounds to his head and chest. According to the Geneva Conventions, however, abuse of prisoners under any circumstance is not permissable.

Related: Gaddafi to be buried in "secret desert location"

Here is a frame by frame look at the attack. Below the frames is video decoding the cell phone footage of the capture. And, finally, at the bottom is the full video. You can see the attempt to sodomize Gaddafi at the 16 second mark.

The video evidence is in the link btw.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...-turning-heads
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