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Old 01-23-2012, 02:56 PM   #136
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He was awfully lucky he didn't have at least 2 interceptions in that game, and that Kyle Williams was the punt returner. Also, all he had to do last week was sit back and watch the Packers self destruct. It's also a shame that someone like Cruz got overlooked (no Pro Bowl, but Eli got in...).

Cruz made 2nd team All Pro.

All Pro >>>>>>>>> Pro Bowl.
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:05 PM   #137
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The Packers self destructed don't you know.

You know i give you a lot of shit during the season being an evil Eagle fan but at least Eagles fans man up. A large % of the fans of other teams seem to be whiny little girls who refuse to give credit when their teams get beat.

He's a gamer. Faced what I call the Ravens defense of the NFC in SF. Held up. Tough QB.
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:16 PM   #138
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Eli is a fantastic quarterback. To do what he's done, on the road, throughout his career in the biggest games....that's his legacy.

To play the type of game he did yesterday, in the rain/cold, vs. a GREAT defense on the road....impressive. Obviously he wasn't the only reason the team wins or loses, but anyone who talks like that is dumb to begin with and doesn't really know what they're talking about, so **** 'em.

If Eli was a Redskin, you know jackass (appropriate name, btw) would be all over his ********.
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:45 PM   #139
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Yeah, the team underachieved in the playoffs. Peyton didn't. He's played very well for the past numerous post-seasons. He wasn't afforded the chance to play a below average game (Brady yesterday) and win. The last time Peyton played bad and we won was in our superbowl year. Even when Manning had a good game, lately, we still lose in the playoffs.


Peyton didn't have piss poor games outside of his 1999 game against Tennessee and his 2002 game against the Jets. But for a team that consistently coasted through the regular season with 12 and 13 win campaigns, there's no excuse to lose with home field and to inferior teams. They've regularly lost home games in the playoffs and/or to teams with worse records:


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2002- New York
2005- Pittsburgh
2007- San Diego
2008- San Diego
2009- New Orleans
2010- New York


As great as Peyton is, that's just unacceptable.
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:55 PM   #140
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He has something like the fifth most yards every by a QB and he has now one the most road playoff games in history. And in almost none of those games does he have bad stats.

Yes, that stats do not lie. And it's funny a NE fan talks shit on the day after Brady sucks it up and wins only because his defense bails him out, a reality and not a made up situation from your mind.
Yes Brady had a bad game. But its still Brady and Montana alone at the top. And Eli is overrated.

Put Brady on the Colts and they are right back. Put Eli there and....ouch.
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:56 PM   #141
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The numbers dont show how clutch Eli Manning is do they? Eyeball test, use it. The guy delivers in big games. Think he had 14-15 4th quarter TDs which tied a record. Average QB tho. Only the company he is with happens to be Peyton and Johnny Unitas. Whoa wait what?
Sorry, not taking. Winning is more of a team accomplishment.
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:57 PM   #142
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Yes Brady had a bad game. But its still Brady and Montana alone at the top. And Eli is overrated.

Put Brady on the Colts and they are right back. Put Eli there and....ouch.

What are you basing this off of?
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:58 PM   #143
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Sorry, not taking. Winning is more of a team accomplishment.

The record he showed had to do with touchdowns, not winning.

Wtf are you talking about?
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:12 PM   #144
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Eli is an average quarterback. Put him on an average team and no one would talk about him. Average career qb rating and throws a ton of picks. His isn't even as good as Matt Ryan much less Brady, Brees, etc.
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It might've been in this thread, but at some point I said I would rather have Romo on my team. I believe at that point they were pretty close to each other and while I think its a little closer than most would think, Eli is the better player. His ability to come through in big games is a very nice thing to watch.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:04 AM   #146
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Peyton didn't have piss poor games outside of his 1999 game against Tennessee and his 2002 game against the Jets. But for a team that consistently coasted through the regular season with 12 and 13 win campaigns, there's no excuse to lose with home field and to inferior teams. They've regularly lost home games in the playoffs and/or to teams with worse records:


1999- Tennessee
2002- New York
2005- Pittsburgh
2007- San Diego
2008- San Diego
2009- New Orleans
2010- New York


As great as Peyton is, that's just unacceptable.


You have to think how many times his defense let him down in games though. I mean in 07 he was beat by Billy Volek and Darren Sproles(or Michael Turner, can't remember) then in 08 it was again the Darren Sproles show as he killed the Indy D. Even in '10 Mark Sanchez led his team on a GW drive. And I'm sure in 02 he lost on the road, that 41-0 drubbing they took.


I would agree with the SB loss and Pitt game. Those were games he could've payed better. Even Vanderjagt missing didn't tell the whole story of that game.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:26 AM   #147
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I guess you don't remember the '05 game - Peyton played well. Then factor in that is was a great defense he was going against, and he got absolutely nothing from him running game, and his o-line got destroyed in pass protection......

The TEAM didn't perform well. Manning, however, did his job.
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Eli is an average quarterback. Put him on an average team and no one would talk about him. Average career qb rating and throws a ton of picks. His isn't even as good as Matt Ryan much less Brady, Brees, etc.


You're a joke.

Last year, the Giant's receivers were notorious for tipping balls at an astounding rate that lead to interceptions. Key culprits such as Mario "Butterfingers" Manningham.

Matty Checkdown? The guy that has zero arm, can't make a clutch play with a similarly skilled offensive weapons than Manning? And the year before this year, we didn't even have a guy like Cruz which only made Atlanta's receivers better than NY's in comparison.

Apart from our great pass rush, our defense is mediocre at best, we have no running game whatsoever to speak of, we've dealt with injuries to key players (most underrated - Terrell Thomas, our best cover corner in a pass happy league) and our offensive line was a sieve against the SF.

We have a good team, but there are lots of flaws and weaknesses. Eli is a FANTASTIC QB that leads our team to many wins. Someone like Alex Smith or Matt Ryan couldn't do close to the amount of things that Eli does.
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The dude is clutch, he makes big plays and is definitely underrated.
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