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Old 10-25-2011, 04:53 PM   #16
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Marino might want to be on that list but the point is having a ring doesn't make you a great QB

or even a good QB
And my point is, **** the list. It's far more important to have a ring. That list is just some writer(s) opinion, it's not an accomplishment to be excluded from it or demerit to be on it.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:05 PM   #17
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And my point is, **** the list. It's far more important to have a ring. That list is just some writer(s) opinion, it's not an accomplishment to be excluded from it or demerit to be on it.
Yeah rings are awesome, but someone used Eli's ring to show that means he is better than others...so that is why I posted that
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:13 PM   #18
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I would love to be on a list of worst QBs to lead his team to a Superbowl. And I daresay that every QB that doesn't have a ring would want to be on that list as well.


if anything its one of the biggest travesties how much respect a bad/awful QB can get that wins a Super Bowl. See Trent Dilfer

even as a Ravens fan, i despised Dilfer. I despised the coaching staff for being content with him not to F up(which he still did often) with complete throw aways just so he wouldn't have a chance at a int. the sad reality is that prime Ravens Def won them that Superbowl and if it wren't a once in a decade dominating defense they'd have no chance with that retard philosophy. hard to criticize considering they did win the SuperBowl, but speaking from someone who was a homer fan it was as frustrating to watch as them being the worst team in the league whenever they were on offense. its even harder watching NFL shows and listening to Dilfer talk these days, or others talk about him, giving him Super Bowl ring respect when he was such a sorry liability

but yeah if we're discussing good QB's, that ring shit doesn't matter since there have been some pitifully awful ones with riings
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:59 PM   #19
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Eli Manning interceptions:

2005: 17
2006: 18
2007: 20 (led NFL)
2008: 10
2009: 14
2010: 25 (led NFL)

Tony Romo interceptions:

2006: 13
2007: 19
2008: 14
2009: 9
2010: 7

Romo only played 6 games last year. He would have thrown close to 20 last year at the rate he was going. Romo has also had much better receivers to throw to for most of his career. That has to be factor as well.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:01 PM   #20
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How is Eli 3rd on that list? Get out of here.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:08 PM   #21
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http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...win-super-bowl

The List: 'Worst' QBs to win a Super Bowl



defense wins championships...


This is such a stupid list. He includes Phil Simms who had one of the best Super Bowl performances ever going 22-25, and would have won the second Super Bowl had he not gotten hurt, but leaves off Ben Roethlisberger who had the worst Super Bowl performance ever for a winning QB, and even lost a Super Bowl as well.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:50 PM   #22
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http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...win-super-bowl

The List: 'Worst' QBs to win a Super Bowl



defense wins championships...

I don't take lists seriously because they're total BS and one guys opinion.

Eli was great that postseason and far from one of the worst QB's every. He must have had a 6-0 TD-INT ratio with an extremely high QB rating. Hell if Romo pulled that off in the postseason you would claim he's the next Elway and don't forget that divisional playoff game that year were Romo choked(again) despite being the clear favorites. Eli is a better QB than Romo but that doesn't take anything away from Romo since Eli is really good.

Also every SB team has great defenses.. That's why they win usually win it but that giant team wasn't one dimensional and that offense relied upon Eli(although they had a great running game).. Fact is Eli out performed Garcia, Romo, Favre and Brady in that postseason. give the guy some credit.

Another thing is people love to bash Eli for his picks but they don't realize that his recievers had a knack for dropping passes and falling into the lap of opposing teams. Yes this happens to most QB's but it seems like it happens to Eli alot more. Manningham used to drop passes like they are harpons ready to spear him
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:06 PM   #23
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knick, that list is based on the QB's entire career not just how they preform in the one Super Bowl they won...

Romo has much better career numbers than Eli does, so no he wouldn't be on that list if he won a ring...

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...ing_career.htm

^^^ top 5 passer rating all time...no that doesn't mean Romo is better than Montana so don't even go there, different eras...but it does mean he has been great in the regular season...better than Eli
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:08 PM   #24
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Ben has a better career rating than Drew Brees? Wow, really didn't expect that.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:17 PM   #25
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Ben has a better career rating than Drew Brees? Wow, really didn't expect that.
Brees had a couple growing pain years with the Chargers...Ben was good as a rookie which is super rare for a QB
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:39 PM   #26
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knick, that list is based on the QB's entire career not just how they preform in the one Super Bowl they won...

Romo has much better career numbers than Eli does, so no he wouldn't be on that list if he won a ring...

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...ing_career.htm

^^^ top 5 passer rating all time...no that doesn't mean Romo is better than Montana so don't even go there, different eras...but it does mean he has been great in the regular season...better than Eli

So why isn't Terry Bradshaw on there? Ever look at his regular season stats?

This link by the way proves that you can't use stats from this inflated era to determine anything, and why I said in another post that if someone surpasses Marino's record this year it will be cheapened. Matt Schaub and Joe Flacco ahead of Marino?

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So why isn't Terry Bradshaw on there? Ever look at his regular season stats?
Bradshw wasn't the greatest and did play with arguably the greatest defenses ever but HE WON FOUR RINGS!!!



I will say this though, I think maybe Joe Namath could be on there...Namath is a HOFer though but shouldn't be...he is just in the HOF because of his famous prediction

he only won one ring and didn't have the greatest career...
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:47 PM   #28
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and yeah passer rating has gone up gradually over the years...it gets higher and higher each year

I wonder if a 90.0-99.0 passer rating will be viewed as shitty 20 years from now...I wouldn't doubt it

that shows how amazing Young and Montana were...their ratings are still great for this era
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Bradshw wasn't the greatest and did play with arguably the greatest defenses ever but HE WON FOUR RINGS!!!



I will say this though, I think maybe Joe Namath could be on there...Namath is a HOFer though but shouldn't be...he is just in the HOF because of his famous prediction

he only won one ring and didn't have the greatest career...

So when do rings matter and when don't they?
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Yeah, I think he belongs in the Rivers/Big Ben area of really good but not elite. People love to talk shit on himm but he really is a borderline great QB.

what the fuuuuuck
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