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Old 07-02-2006, 01:33 PM   #16
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w/ the signing of V-Rad this becomes a predicament if we sign Harrington too in terms of available roster spots. V-Rad signed w/ us because he was offered a starting spot (the 4) so the roster looks like this already
Brown
Radmonavic
Odom
Bryant
Parker/Vujacic

Harrington will also want to start so where do the Lakers put him? Only way I see this working is to bring back the P/F idea
Brown
Harringon
Radmonavic
Bryant
Odom
This will most definitely not work against fast guard teams which seem to be mostly every team nowadays (Suns, Spurs, Hornets, etc.). Meaning a 3 and a 4 who want to start will have to come off the bench which also cuts Luke Walton's minutes (not like that matters )
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Old 07-02-2006, 01:54 PM   #17
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w/ the signing of V-Rad this becomes a predicament if we sign Harrington too in terms of available roster spots. V-Rad signed w/ us because he was offered a starting spot (the 4) so the roster looks like this already
Brown
Radmonavic
Odom
Bryant
Parker/Vujacic

Harrington will also want to start so where do the Lakers put him? Only way I see this working is to bring back the P/F idea
Brown
Harringon
Radmonavic
Bryant
Odom
This will most definitely not work against fast guard teams which seem to be mostly every team nowadays (Suns, Spurs, Hornets, etc.). Meaning a 3 and a 4 who want to start will have to come off the bench which also cuts Luke Walton's minutes (not like that matters )

Odom should go to the bench because Radmanovic opens up the court more so than Lamar and Harrington is a better post threat tham Odom.
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Old 07-02-2006, 02:14 PM   #18
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Odom should go to the bench because Radmanovic opens up the court more so than Lamar and Harrington is a better post threat tham Odom.

Odom on the bench? You got to be kidding me that would never happen. V-Rad goes to the bench with the stipulation that he gets alot of minutes. Thats the best bet if Harrington starts at the 4.
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Old 07-02-2006, 02:23 PM   #19
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I don't like the Al Harrington trade too much it really does'nt give us anything that we need here, especially now that we're going to use our mid-level on Vladamir Radmonovic which i don't like too much either. I think we should've work a sign-and-trade to get Peja if we really wanted to get a shooter.
Now we're still stuck with smush as our starter which is STILL our weakest position. I know we got Farmar and i'm glad we did, but is'nt there a veteran point guard out there a little better than smush?
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Old 07-02-2006, 08:25 PM   #20
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after reading all these posts you all forgot that Odom can play the 4.
Here is my best guess of what can possibly be:

5 Kwame
4 Odom
3 Al harr
2 Kobe
1 ???

We always have a problem with at least one position every year But mitch said he isnt done so I am hoping to land Banks or Cassel to that question mark spot.
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Old 07-03-2006, 05:35 PM   #21
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I'll put this here because it seems like the most appropriate place.

I think we should move away from Al Harrington and onto other players.

Charlotte may be open to the idea of getting a center, so if Melvin Ely is willing to come here, we could do a sign and trade to get him. He can play both the 4 and the 5 and brings a different skill set than Turiaf and Radmanovic. He's a post scorer we could use if the price is right.

A Devean George sign and trade should get us a nice role player for the bench.

Cook is expendable.

If we get a veteran point, Sasha or Smush are expendable.

I haven't seen Maurice Evans play. I wonder if he could man the point like Harper did years ago. Just a curiousity.

Our biggest needs right now is bench scoring and a veteran starting point guard. Right now, I want to keep Radmanovic as our starting power forward because of his shooting ability.
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after reading all these posts you all forgot that Odom can play the 4.
Here is my best guess of what can possibly be:

5 Kwame
4 Odom
3 Al harr
2 Kobe
1 ???

We always have a problem with at least one position every year But mitch said he isnt done so I am hoping to land Banks or Cassel to that question mark spot.

the problem is that radman was pretty much guaranteed the starting job. that was part of the reason he chose lakers over clippers
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Old 07-03-2006, 05:59 PM   #23
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I'll put this here because it seems like the most appropriate place.

I think we should move away from Al Harrington and onto other players.

Charlotte may be open to the idea of getting a center, so if Melvin Ely is willing to come here, we could do a sign and trade to get him. He can play both the 4 and the 5 and brings a different skill set than Turiaf and Radmanovic. He's a post scorer we could use if the price is right.

A Devean George sign and trade should get us a nice role player for the bench.

Cook is expendable.

If we get a veteran point, Sasha or Smush are expendable.

I haven't seen Maurice Evans play. I wonder if he could man the point like Harper did years ago. Just a curiousity.

Our biggest needs right now is bench scoring and a veteran starting point guard. Right now, I want to keep Radmanovic as our starting power forward because of his shooting ability.

good ideas. but radman is more likely to play the SF
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the problem is that radman was pretty much guaranteed the starting job. that was part of the reason he chose lakers over clippers

I heard it was actually more garunteed minutes
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Old 07-03-2006, 07:43 PM   #25
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good ideas. but radman is more likely to play the SF

I think he will see time at the 3 and the 4. When Lamar is on the floor, he will play the 4. When Odom is resting on the bench, he can move over to the 3. He has that kind of versatility, which is one reason why I like bringing him in.
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I'd still like to see Harrington on the team. It adds to the Lakers collective depth which was sorely lacking last year.

Players that become expendable to me are:

- Mihm
- Cook
- Wafer
- McKee
- Sasha -OR- Smush (take your pick)

Devean George and Jim Jackson will not be back.

So with all these players expendable, I do see us having the "room" to bring on Harrington and a defensive minded point guard. The Lakers would be much deeper.

Yes, this is a very debateable topic, but I am just thinking out loud, and I am sure some of you will disagree.

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Old 07-03-2006, 08:08 PM   #27
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I'd still like to see Harrington on the team. It adds to the Lakers collective depth which was sorely lacking last year.

Players that become expendable to me are:

- Mihm
- Cook
- Wafer
- McKee
- Sasha -OR- Smush (take your pick)

Devean George and Jim Jackson will not be back.

So with all these players expendable, I do see us having the "room" to bring on Harrington and a defensive minded point guard. The Lakers would be much deeper.

Yes, this is a very debateable topic, but I am just thinking out loud, and I am sure some of you will disagree.

-Mike in SoCal

If we got Harrington, I wouldn't complain. There are enough minutes to satisfy Odom, Harrington, and Radmanovic at the 3 and 4. Luke Walton then becomes the odd man out.

One thing I think Farmar can do rather quickly is be a defensive point guard. I want one who is experienced, preferrably with playoff success, but I'm not too picky.

If I had to choose between Sasha and Smush, I would trade Smush. Sasha showed up in the playoffs and Smush disappeared. Sasha is also a better outside shooter. He just needs a confidence injection, and his playoff performance should do just that.
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Luke Walton then becomes the odd man out.

I could see Luke winning the 6th Man award....

I hope Farmar does produce. He's only 19, and needs to bulk up. But he has quick feet, so hopefully he can contribute. I look forward to seeing him play at the Summer Pro League.
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If we got Harrington, I wouldn't complain. There are enough minutes to satisfy Odom, Harrington, and Radmanovic at the 3 and 4. Luke Walton then becomes the odd man out.

One thing I think Farmar can do rather quickly is be a defensive point guard. I want one who is experienced, preferrably with playoff success, but I'm not too picky.

If I had to choose between Sasha and Smush, I would trade Smush. Sasha showed up in the playoffs and Smush disappeared. Sasha is also a better outside shooter. He just needs a confidence injection, and his playoff performance should do just that.

Harrington and Odom are almost the same exact type of players...they can both dribble.

That is why they are both very big threats. We would do great with both of them they can keep switching up.

Radman would be great off the bench and Luke doesnt necessarily become the odd man out either. Luke and radman can give both harrington and odom rest. Luke can play the 2 at times also so i dont see any possibilty of luke leaving the lakers.
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Harrington and Odom are almost the same exact type of players...they can both dribble.

That is why they are both very big threats. We would do great with both of them they can keep switching up.

Radman would be great off the bench and Luke doesnt necessarily become the odd man out either. Luke and radman can give both harrington and odom rest. Luke can play the 2 at times also so i dont see any possibilty of luke leaving the lakers.

Ideally, it will create competition amongst all three guys, all of them competiting with each other for minutes, thus making all of them better. Radmanovic would become our Toni Kukoc and he will get a good amount of minutes as our sixth man. But if we miss out on Harrington, it wouldn't be as big of a deal as it would've been if we didn't have Radmanovic coming in.
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