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Old 11-10-2011, 10:19 PM   #31
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Euroleague just desperately wants to be loved... some sort of affection.

that's all that's going on here.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:20 PM   #32
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Are you saying that 13/9 against the teams he played so far will hold up for the season? He will maintain even those NBA averages?

You know, past the regular season stage there are actually more than 1/3 slightly hard games.

13/9 so far, might be 8/5 in top 16.

I also love you every one of you ignored the 681 to 4 sample size. keep up the good work geniuses.

Did you just use some what-if scenarios to say that Kirilenko's current accomplishments are worthless because, what if, he isn't consistent?

You're still stupid as f***.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:21 PM   #33
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Did you just use some what-if scenarios to say that Kirilenko's current accomplishments are worthless because, what if, he isn't consistent?

You're still stupid as f***.

I am just laughing at how stupid you are. This whole thread will come back to haunt you fools.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:21 PM   #34
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OK, you are an idiot.
Jeez, at least keep your lie going. If you're going to tell someone they're on ignore, IGNORE THEM. Don't reply like 45 minutes later

I'll give you another chance. I'll pretend I'm being ignored again.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:23 PM   #35
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Are we seriously saying that going from a higher scoring system in the NBA to the Euroleague, and scoring the SAME amount points, almost doubling your rebounds, tripling your blocks and shooting 10-15% is not incredible

Good god, I hope none of us ever become a GM of Coach of any kind of professional team

Are you actually saying that those numbers are good considering who he played overall so far?

let me give you a little advice. VTB United League.

You might want to look it up before you completely humiliate yourself later on when the thread is bumped.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:26 PM   #36
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Are you actually saying that those numbers are good considering who he played overall so far?

let me give you a little advice. VTB United League.

You might want to look it up before you completely humiliate yourself later on when the thread is bumped.

I'm not going to act like I'm an expert on overseas Basketball. I am not.

The fact that you think your league has more talent than ours is laughable. At first I appreciated your posts, because it's good to see other persepectives and to be reminded that there is great talent everywhere. But you're spreading this myth that Euroleague is far superior to the NBA and we're just too "stupid" to see it.

You have to lack serious basketball knowledge to watch vspan, for example, and come to the conclusion that he's better than the best of the best in the NBA. He's a scrub.
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Spanoulis is not a scrub he's just not the best of the best in NBA.
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Spanoulis is not a scrub he's just not the best of the best in NBA.

No he is not a scrub.

Scrubs are Skip, Luther Head, and Lucas.

If these guys are ahead of you in the food chain

Then you are a waterboy.
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Spanoulis is not a scrub he's just not the best of the best in NBA.

Exactly, I appreciate what I've seen of him as a basketball fan, but he is a scrub by NBA standards.
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Exactly, I appreciate what I've seen of him as a basketball fan, but he is a scrub by NBA standards.

I don't know.
By the time that he had playing there, he was a scrub .. you're correct.

But think with me, what if he had the same playing time like Rafer Alston had or other guy like that had?

I ask you this, because one of my favorite of possible my favorite player is Sergio Rodriguez (he's playing like sh"t currently) but everytime that i watched him playing in NBA i thought "what if this guy had like 30 games with 30mpg?" he would be an average PG in my opinion .. better than Duhon, Ridnour .. etc.
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Jeez, at least keep your lie going. If you're going to tell someone they're on ignore, IGNORE THEM. Don't reply like 45 minutes later

I'll give you another chance. I'll pretend I'm being ignored again.
LOL. Euroleague got owned so hard.
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I don't know.
By the time that he had playing there, he was a scrub .. you're correct.

But think with me, what if he had the same playing time like Rafer Alston had or other guy like that had?

I ask you this, because one of my favorite of possible my favorite player is Sergio Rodriguez (he's playing like sh"t currently) but everytime that i watched him playing in NBA i thought "what if this guy had like 30 games with 30mpg?" he would be an average PG in my opinion .. better than Duhon, Ridnour .. etc.

You could be right about the potential to be average, but that's not saying much. IMO there's a reason they aren't getting their minutes.
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You could be right about the potential to be average, but that's not saying much. IMO there's a reason they aren't getting their minutes.

Why wasn't Arenas getting minutes when he came to NBA? Just one example.
It's most of the times a matter of opportunity in my opinion, but that's just me.

In terms of europeans playing in NBA, it's weird sometimes. Potential is the main factor, totally.
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Since this forum is obsessed with making up nonsense about how Andrei Kirilenko, Nicolas Batum, and Jordan Farmar are "dominating and destroying the Euroleague", and are "the GOATs in Euroleague history", based solely on early season PIR stats (Euroleague MVP of the Week).............

It is time to destroy this current and newest myth that NBA only fans have created. By listing all of the games in which previous Euroleague MVPs of the Week had higher PIR scores. Keep in mind that this does NOT include all the players that were not MVP of the Week, and also had higher scores.

There are plenty of other Euroleague players that also had higher PIR scores than the high scores for Kirilenko, Farmar, Barum, but that did not win the MVP that Week, because their PIR score for that game was not the highest in the league that week. Remember that there are only 10 games in the Euroleague regular season, and that the maximum number of games a team could play in the Euroleague in a season is 23. So do NOT confuse this with the amount of games available to be played in the NBA.

This shows just how completely and totally common these games and stats really are.This includes ONLY Euroleague games played since the 2000-01 season.


2000-01

Week 1: Panagiotis Liadelis - 42 ranking
Week 3: Milenko Topić - 39 ranking
Week 4: Dejan Tomašević - 42 ranking
Week 5: Derrick Hamilton - 38 ranking
Week 6: Darko Krunic - 39 ranking
Week 7: Gregor Fučka - 42 ranking
Week 8: Kebu Stewart - 47 ranking
Week 9: Derrick Hamilton - 40 ranking

Eighth finals Game 1: Alphonso Ford - 45 ranking
Quarterfinals Game 1: Gregor Fučka - 43 ranking
Quarterfinals Game 3: Carlton Myers - 45 ranking
Semifinals Game 1: Saulius Štombergas - 43 ranking


2001-02

Week 1: Asım Pars - 39 ranking
Week 2: Jaka Lakovič - 55 ranking
Week 4: Gregor Fučka - 45 ranking
Week 6: Valeri Daineko - 40 ranking
Week 7: Dimos Dikoudis - 44 ranking
Week 8: Andrius Giedraitis - 43 ranking
Week 9: Ruslan Avleev - 47 ranking
Week 10: Mirsad Türkcan - 43 ranking
Week 11: Nikola Prkačin - 41 ranking

Top 16

Week 1: Ruslan Avleev - 42 ranking
Week 4: Matjaž Smodiš - 38 ranking
Week 5: Marcus Brown - 41 ranking


2002-03

Week 1: Hanno Möttölä - 40 ranking
Week 4: Mirsad Türkcan - 43 ranking
Week 6: Jorge Garbajosa - 39 ranking
Week 10: Mirsad Türkcan - 38 ranking
Week 12: Tanoka Beard - 39 ranking
Week 14: Mirsad Türkcan - 40 ranking

Top 16

Week 4: Slaven Rimac - 38 ranking


2003-04

Week 1: Lynn Greer - 44 ranking
Week 2: Andrés Nocioni - 48 ranking
Week 4: Maceo Baston - 42 ranking
Week 7: Arvydas Macijauskas - 50 ranking

Week 9:
Lynn Greer - 38 ranking
Gregor Fučka - 38 ranking
Panagiotis Liadelis - 38 ranking

Week 10: Tanoka Beard - 63 ranking

Top 16

Week 1: Arvydas Sabonis - 47 ranking
Week 4: Jaka Lakovič - 51 ranking


2004-05

Week 3: Anthony Parker - 47 ranking
Week 4: Marko Popović - 54 ranking
Week 5: Dejan Milojević - 55 ranking
Week 6: Charles Smith - 41 ranking
Week 7: Chris Williams - 39 ranking
Week 9: Jorge Garbajosa - 42 ranking
Week 11: Charles Smith - 39 ranking
Week 14: David Andersen - 45 ranking

Top 16

Week 1: David Andersen - 41 ranking
Week 2: Anthony Parker - 40 ranking

Quarterfinals Game 1: Luis Scola - 43 ranking


2005-06

Week 8: Spencer Nelson - 48 ranking
Week 9: Andrija Žižić - 41 ranking
Week 12: Marko Popović - 40 ranking

Week 13:
Tyus Edney - 38 ranking
Felipe Reyes - 38 ranking

Top 16

Week 1: Anthony Parker - 39 ranking

Quarterfinals Game 1: Nikola Vujčić - 38 ranking


2006-07

Week 1: Carlos Cabezas - 41 ranking
Week 6: Nikola Vujčić - 46 ranking
Week 8: Lazaros Papadopoulos - 38 ranking
Week 9: Marcus Haislip - 41 ranking
Week 10: Nikola Vujčić - 40 ranking
Week 13: Terrell Lyday - 40 ranking
Week 14: Vasco Evtimov - 38 ranking

Top 16

Week 4: Antonis Fotsis - 38 ranking
Week 6: Antonis Fotsis - 39 ranking


2007-08

Week 1: Nikola Peković - 40 ranking
Week 3: Jeremiah Massey - 40 ranking
Week 4: Thomas Van Den Spiegel - 50 ranking
Week 5: Arvydas Macijauskas - 41 ranking
Week 6: Dewarick Spencer - 44 ranking
Week 9: Tiago Splitter - 42 ranking
Week 10: Scoonie Penn - 38 ranking

Top 16

Week 4: Lynn Greer - 37 ranking


2008-09

Week 5: Eduardo Hernández-Sonseca - 38 ranking
Week 6: Lior Eliyahu - 42 ranking
Week 8: Sani Bečirovič - 38 ranking
Week 9: Immanuel McElroy - 38 ranking
Week 10: Oğuz Savaş - 41 ranking

Top 16

Week 3: Ersan İlyasova - 39 ranking

Quarterfinals Game 1: Romain Sato - 40 ranking


2009-10

Week 1: Darjuš Lavrinovič - 49 ranking

Week 5:
Keith Langford - 38 ranking
Aleks Marić - 38 ranking

Week 7: Aleks Marić - 49 ranking

Top 16

Week 2: Alan Anderson - 40 ranking
Week 3: Terrell McIntyre - 43 ranking
Week 4: Jamont Gordon - 40 ranking


2010-11

Week 10: Keith Langford - 42 ranking

Top 16

Week 4: Antonis Fotsis - 40 ranking


Every single one of those weekly MVPs had a HIGHER PIR score than ANY of the games ANY "NBA player" has had so far in Euroleague:


2011-12

Week 1: Andrei Kirilenko - 37 ranking
Week 2: Nicolas Batum - 36 ranking
Week 3: Jordan Farmar - 35 ranking
Week 4: Nicolas Batum - 35 ranking


92 games where Euroleague "MVP of the Week" had a HIGHER PIR score than anything so far that Farmar, Kirilenko, or Batum have had.

This just proves what complete BULL SHIT goes on in this forum, with all the endless crap posted here by NBA only fans. It also proves that these index scores are very common in the early part of the Euroleague season.

If I would have listed all the higher scores of players that did not win the MVP of the Week, and all the scores that were equal to them (35-37 range) it would have been well over a hundred such games with higher scores, in a league in which teams play between 10-23 games in an entire season, that has only been giving this "award" since the 2000-01 season.

There is NOTHING unusual or "dominant" or "GOAT" about these stats in Euroleague of Farmar, Batum, Kirilenko, and ANYONE saying there is - is a liar.
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Spamming the same post in multiple threads, Euroleague? Mommy never showed you much love or affection?
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