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Originally Posted by I.R.Beast
He's the best C by default. The cream of the Crop of Big men are at the power forward position.
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And that adds to his value and effectiveness if anything because now more than ever, you're not going to find someone at the center position who is going to come close to replacing his impact. Because of that, he's the most irreplaceable player in the NBA.
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Howard's fundamentals are still poor, He gets lost in games too often. He's very inconsistnet in regards to his point output night in and night out.
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No he's not. He averaged 23 ppg and topped 20 points in 51 of the 78 games he played and 5 of the 6 playoff games. He failed to score 15 in just 11 regular season games and 1 playoff game.
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Simply put he is not a Dominant. He's fools gold against an inferior opponent. His poor passing ability makes him most of the time incapable of capitalizing on the defense doubling him, His lack of a face-up game makes him very human from 5+ feet away from the rim.
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His passing isn't great, but he can drive to the basket, actually he had that ability before his back to the basket game started to consistently look impressive, and he did show an ability to hit a 12-15 foot bank shot throughout last season.
As far as opponents? His two 40+ point games in the regular season came against playoff teams, 1 being the best defensive team in the league and both being 55+ win teams. His other one of course, came in the playoffs. He also dropped 39 on one of those same teams and 39 vs another playoff team(Portland). In fact, out of his 16 regular season 30+ games, 9 came against playoff teams. And of course, he had 2 more in the playoffs.
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His low post moves while improving a bit are still quite lacking.
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No, they're not. He was pretty damn consistent last season with his spins, left and right-handed jump hooks, short bank shots ect.
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His rebounding overrates him greatly, especially when you take into consderation how many "cheap" rebounds a game a big man will get.
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Now it seems like you're really grasping at straws.
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His greatest contribution will always be his defense. Howard has no business being a primary option on offense.
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And how many players last season were more suited in your opinion? And by primary option what do you mean? He got to the finals as the number 1 option 2 years ago and he wasn't the player he is now.
Dwight's ability to basically turn a team of poor/average defenders into a good defensive team by himself and the fact that he's arguably the best rebounder at his position makes him valuable enough. Then you had the 23 ppg on 59% shooting....
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Originally Posted by I.R.Beast
He did not Carry the magic to the finals....Thats Magic team that went to the finals was stacked, and if i rmember Correctly there was lot of Hedo turkoglu and Jameer nelosn invlolved in that successful season.
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He was still their best player by far. Put up 20/15/3 on 60% that run, average 26/13/3 on 65% in the ECF and closed out Cleveland with 40/14/4. Turkoglu was fairly inconsistent that run, and valuable, but not even an all-star. The fact that you thought Nelson was a big part of their finals run shows you shouldn't be talking about that run. Nelson didn't even play until the finals and they would've been better off if he hadn't.
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23 ppg is not dominant given the fact that the Center position is watered down to the point where he faces an undersized center on most nights. He's a Center most of his points come on easy putbacks and dunks..i would hope he can get 20 points on 15 shots or less, and factor in all the freethrows from the hack a howard.
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23 ppg at the center position is no easier than it's ever been given the rules and how the game is played. Maybe defense was better from '98-'04, but the rules also favored centers more than now.
And he does NOT get most of his points from easy put backs and dunks.
Dwight had 227 dunks in 78 games, that's 2.9 per game and 5.8 ppg......out of 22.9 total ppg. That's not even close to being half of his points.
And put backs? He averages 4 offensive rebounds per game. Obviously a lot of those dunks come from put backs so this total can't be tacked on to his points from dunks, and he doesn't score on every put back.
Lets say that on those 4 offensive rebounds, he finishes 2 shots, gets foul once and either misses the last one or passes it back. That's probably 5-6 ppg off put backs.
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Dwight Howard is definately good, i just dont believe he belongs in the same Breath as Wade, Lebron, Dirk Kobe, Rose etc.
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Not to be mentioned in the same breath as Rose? You have that backwards, Rose shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Dwight.
And Kobe? Not if we're going by last season when Dwight was considerably better than Kobe throughout the year.