Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > Football Forum

Football Forum Football forum - NFL football forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-11-2011, 08:57 PM   #16
UtahJazzFan88
Jazz Fan
 
UtahJazzFan88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 6,113
UtahJazzFan88 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterUtahJazzFan88 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterUtahJazzFan88 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterUtahJazzFan88 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterUtahJazzFan88 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterUtahJazzFan88 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterUtahJazzFan88 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterUtahJazzFan88 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Rivera seems like a terrible hire for Carolina so far though, why is Rivera making Newton make all the plays? Why not relieve some of the pressure off Cam and run it with Jonathan Stewart and DeAngelo? Those guys are good, let them run it.
UtahJazzFan88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 03:45 PM   #17
dirk94_
I hit open layups
 
dirk94_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Swagg
Posts: 152
dirk94_ has decent reputationdirk94_ has decent reputation
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Look at Cam's stats, Tebow is just over with the fans.
dirk94_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 04:16 PM   #18
IlliniFan
Very good NBA starter
 
IlliniFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NOVA
Posts: 8,063
IlliniFan is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterIlliniFan is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterIlliniFan is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterIlliniFan is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterIlliniFan is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterIlliniFan is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterIlliniFan is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterIlliniFan is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterIlliniFan is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

@ anyone that picks Tebow. How is this even a question?
IlliniFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 04:41 PM   #19
DuMa
Canned
 
DuMa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 32,335
DuMa has a terrific reputationDuMa has a terrific reputationDuMa has a terrific reputationDuMa has a terrific reputationDuMa has a terrific reputation
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Im picking Tebow.
DuMa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 06:49 PM   #20
Crown&Coke
Stay Strong Droth
 
Crown&Coke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: LAnd of the Lost
Posts: 3,924
Crown&Coke has a near all-star reputation hereCrown&Coke has a near all-star reputation hereCrown&Coke has a near all-star reputation hereCrown&Coke has a near all-star reputation hereCrown&Coke has a near all-star reputation hereCrown&Coke has a near all-star reputation here
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

I seen Cam drop a ball into a recievers hands in full stride while he was being double teamed. Throws elite QB's make.

Tebow, although improving, still bounces balls to wide open players.

Last game, he could have took off running while inside the 15, instead, he side stepped along the line of scrimmage and found a WR in the end zone. I thought he would just take off and barrell his way towards the goal, if this was week 3, he would have done just that. thats progress to me.

Wanna talk about winning? Cam has won at every level too. HS, JR College, Auburn, and I'm talking titles, not games.

Give me Cam, you don't have to change the way you play for dude to be successful
Crown&Coke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 07:59 PM   #21
dunksby
ISH's Scribbler
 
dunksby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 9,323
dunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterdunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterdunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterdunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterdunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterdunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterdunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterdunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterdunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterdunksby is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Cam is the better QB what's there to discuss?
dunksby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 11:38 AM   #22
demons2005
Local High School Star
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,418
demons2005 has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partsdemons2005 has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partsdemons2005 has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partsdemons2005 has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partsdemons2005 has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partsdemons2005 has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these parts
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

i think beside panther and bronco fans with the other fans its liberals vs conservatives here with liberals hating everything there is about all-american type tim tebow so they'll pick Cam. It hurts them to see such an outspoken christian winning football games. They cringe when he prays on the sideline and wins. Cam hasn't shown any ability to win football games
demons2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 12:22 PM   #23
Timmy D for MVP
Chuck Hayes Stan
 
Timmy D for MVP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: California
Posts: 7,919
Timmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableTimmy D for MVP is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Uhh... Cam Newton. By a country mile.
Timmy D for MVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 01:02 PM   #24
mlh1981
Reds/Bengals/Cavs
 
mlh1981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Posts: 14,223
mlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablemlh1981 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Can Andy Dalton get an honorable mention? He's been completely lose in the hype the other rookies are getting.
mlh1981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 01:34 PM   #25
Real Men Wear Green
BathFrog of Doom
 
Real Men Wear Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brighton, MA
Posts: 20,392
Real Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Quote:
Originally Posted by demons2005
i think beside panther and bronco fans with the other fans its liberals vs conservatives here with liberals hating everything there is about all-american type tim tebow so they'll pick Cam. It hurts them to see such an outspoken christian winning football games. They cringe when he prays on the sideline and wins. Cam hasn't shown any ability to win football games
My political views are liberal in a number of areas and I still like Tebow. Fact of the matter is that plenty of NFL players are Republicans and/or outspoken with their religion. That's not what this is about for me, and furthermore it's not like liberals as a whole just don't believe in God.
Real Men Wear Green is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 01:53 PM   #26
Jailblazers7
will-to-bigness
 
Jailblazers7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 22,889
Jailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableJailblazers7 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Quote:
Originally Posted by demons2005
i think beside panther and bronco fans with the other fans its liberals vs conservatives here with liberals hating everything there is about all-american type tim tebow so they'll pick Cam. It hurts them to see such an outspoken christian winning football games. They cringe when he prays on the sideline and wins. Cam hasn't shown any ability to win football games

Winning a NC at Auburn sure looked a lot like winning football games to me. Cam has already won more games than Peyton Manning did in his rookie season.
Jailblazers7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 01:59 PM   #27
GOBB
Sixers|Eagles|Phillies
 
GOBB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Illadelph live 215
Posts: 51,224
GOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableGOBB is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Quote:
Originally Posted by demons2005
Cam hasn't shown any ability to win football games

Yes he has, you continue to be wrong. And what goes unnoticed and not mentioned that much is Denver Broncos defense has been playing great.
GOBB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 02:03 PM   #28
Rameek
Krust Kingz
 
Rameek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tokyo from Brooklyn
Posts: 6,939
Rameek is popular on this boardRameek is popular on this boardRameek is popular on this boardRameek is popular on this board
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton


1. Panthers Offense >>>>>>>>>>>>> Denvers Offense
2. Panthers Defense <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Denvers Defense
3. Panthers Special Teams <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Denvers Special teams
4. Panthers Coaching <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Denvers Coaching

This is difference in wins and loses for each team basically.

Cam he seems to have all the tools to be an elite QB.
Tebow has intangibles and possess an unbelievable heart he has all the tools to be an elite football player.

My Franchise will start with Cam. Those that pick Tebow you are going to have to pick special type of players offensively to cater to Tebow's ability.

Why didnt someone do this for Tommy Frazier that dude >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tebow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oO18ZbCLbE
Rameek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 02:17 PM   #29
Real Men Wear Green
BathFrog of Doom
 
Real Men Wear Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brighton, MA
Posts: 20,392
Real Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterReal Men Wear Green is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

It's not fair but black QBs in general were still uncommon in Frazier's day, one could get a chance but he'd better be a big-time passer. The reason (or excuse) why most black QBs got no shot is that they were runners. So Frazier being a black running QB had no shot. And on a side note, he wasn't better than Tebow at all.

Also, in a number of ways it might just be easier to build a team around Tebow if you don't plan on developing him as a passer. Great WRs only want to play in passing offenses and require a lot of cap space. If you're going to settle for a receiving core highlighted by Eric Decker you'll be able to spend $ and picks on other areas like for example turning the good Bronco D into a great one. The first thing the Broncos did upon announcing Tebow as starter was getting rid of Brandon Marshall.

This approach also would hinder what Tebow does with is arm but if you can develop an overwhelming D it may be worth it. You also probably won't have to pay Tebow what you'll have to play Newton, as Newton's stats will mandate elite QB pay whereas you'll probably be able to pay Tebow the average for an NFL starter. Only way you have to pay Tebow big $ is if you're in SBs and/or he's in the MVP convo, and if that's the case, he's worth it, no?
Real Men Wear Green is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 02:52 PM   #30
JellyBean
College superstar
 
JellyBean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 4,599
JellyBean has an incredible reputation hereJellyBean has an incredible reputation hereJellyBean has an incredible reputation hereJellyBean has an incredible reputation hereJellyBean has an incredible reputation hereJellyBean has an incredible reputation here
Default Re: Tim Tebow or Cam Newton

Cam. He fits the mode of your typical qb. He has the proper skill set. You don't have to get players to fit around him, like what is going to happen with Denver in the off season. I would pick Cam over Tebow.
JellyBean is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:41 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site















Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy