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Old 06-22-2006, 10:39 AM   #16
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Hey administrator, was it really necessary to delete the other thread about this that actually PRECEDED yours?
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Old 06-22-2006, 10:41 AM   #17
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ha..ha.. maybe Isiah wants to do ALA -Pat Riley for sure....
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Congrats to knicks management. They're now officially the worst in the league.
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Old 06-22-2006, 10:43 AM   #19
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I'll add - I don't think LB did a good job this past year. I think he did a bad job. He was pahetic in how he called the team out in the media, couldn't form a lineup, couldn't win games, couldn't come up with a game plan to suit himself and the players. Awful. He deserved to get fired.

BUT, if you keep him, and keep some players together who will play together, there will be improvement just from familiarity and playing in a system.
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The Knicks should admit that they're a Rucker league team, and hire some fat rapper to ebonicoach these streetballers.

It's worth noting that they got exactly what they deserved in hiring Larry Brown, and I said as much when they hired him. Larry has made it very clear over the last few years that he cares a lot about getting paid, and not very much about the well being of whatever franchise is paying him.
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That much is true.

Hopefully the young guys play. Ideally, Isiah will hold off on any more insane max player trades for a year, and see what he can do from within. Maybe he can trade away an older piece or two to someone looking to do more now (Minny?), but no way should he bring in KMart. Let Frye and Lee play a ton of minutes, and see what you've got.
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Old 06-22-2006, 10:44 AM   #22
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I'm a Knicks fan. A big one. Have been one for years. I love Ewing and Starks, and Riley, and Frazier, and DeBushere, I even voted for Bradley.

This team makes me absolutely f-ing crazy. The only thing worse than the players is the front office. The front office is WORSE than the players. As selfish and overpaid and poorly constructed you think the team and players are, the front office is worse.

THERE IS NO PLAN. THERE IS NO STRUCTURE. EVERY MOVE IS JUST A KNEE JERK REACTION TO THE MOVE BEFORE IT.

Marbury misses a handful of games -- Do they ride it out, knowing its a long season? No, they immediately trade for Jalen. Davis and his specatcular service record, makes one mistake and misses some games. The only player with toughness and defense. Do they ride it out? No, they gotta trade him.

The needed a center so badly, the spend 30mil once than 50 mill AND 2 draft picks last summer. But you already bought a Center - why buy another one?

What did they think was going to happen when they got Brown? Magic? They brought him in without any players to suit his style. Sometimes it takes longer than a season to get the right mix of players and system. Sometimes progress is gradual.

Brown's first season with the 76ers was awful. As was his first season with the Spurs.

This constant upheaval is maddening.

Sure, there are always personnel changes but the systems, the strategies, the mangement and the main players stay in place. Haslem-Wade-VG/Riley have been together 3 years - Shaq another 2. The whole of the pistons. TD-Pop-Manu-TP-Buford.

I cannot beleive this is my team. In the old days I would laugh at teams like this. Teams that cannot keep a coach, keep changing players and always wind up with nothing. Now, we have the bad record and the bad front-office and the lack of a superstar, system, or plan for the future.

There has got to be aplan. A three-year plan would be great. Assembling players and coaches who fit each other as part of a common goal for improvement.

THERE IS NO PLAN!.

While I agree with everything this person said. Perhaps it isn't a bad thing that Larry Brown got fired because it gives Isiah a chance to fix his dumb moves that have led to the decline of the Knicks. Then maybe James Dolan will see that Isiah is a total retard and fire him and then try to rebuild the team again by hiring the right people.
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What makes you think the Knicks are capable of hiring the right people?
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Isaiah is worthless!!!!! i dont think he has a clue . to have the highest payroll in the league and still finish in last is a disgrace....a disgrace not to brown, but to thomas. what kind of retard would throw the kind of money he does at the players he does? he shouldve be fired, not brown. atleast when the yankees throw money at players they win....sometimes!
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wasn't Starbury just saying how much he loves brown a week ago? wonder if he knew
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because maybe Dolan will realize that his team is the joke of the NBA and try to finally do something right and not be the retard that he is.
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It seems very obvious to me that Larry Brown purposely tanked it last year to set up this situation.

He coached horribly because he knew he had a five year contract and that he knew Dolan and/or Thomas would want to fire him by now.

So he achieved his goal, a one year contract worth $50 million for basically no work. Wow. Larry Brown is a sharp guy.

So how much money has Brown made between Detroit and New York by not actually working?

And the question is? Will someone hire him again?
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im really starting to feel bad for Knick fans... what a circus.
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Well, looking at the bright side, now knicks players will have to work hard, as their coach is also the GM and can trade them (or try too in some cases ) if they're not focused or not try their best.
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Hell yeah he knew. Steph was just being diplomatic about it. It makes him look good about it.

Believe it or not, Isiah is a better fit for this particular team than Larry. The problem was that this team just couldn't play under Larry's scheme. If you noticed this past year, most of the games the Knicks won were games when they are playing free-will type of basketball. In other words, I think Isiah will take the cuffs off them and give them more freedom.
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