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Old 01-06-2013, 11:49 PM   #1
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Default are chiropractors real, effective doctors?

how does chiropractic work? is it more effective than seeing an MD? please excuse my ignorance.
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:51 PM   #2
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Default Re: are chiropractors real, effective doctors?

Real? Yes. Effective? Depends on your problem. Definitely see an MD first to see what your options are. If you don't like those options, you may want to look into a chiropractor
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The one in my town's a hardcore scam artist.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:16 AM   #4
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I had a knee injury in college and about a year afterwards my other knee starting hurting. It led to a bunch of other issues including a bad back. I saw an orthopedist several times and he was useless with my knee problem. I went to see a chiroprator and he was great. Solved my back problem, the issue was my pelvis had slipped out place, and my back was trying to take up the slack. I told him about my knee problem and he suggest I try a foot doctor. It turns out my after my injury where I went from playing basketball 5 times a week, to hobbling slowly whenever I walked, my alignment had gotten out of wack and I got flat feet.

The knee problem was actually not a joint problem, but my and IT band problem which was due to one my legs was a bit shorter than the other. Wearing a pair of foot orthotics solved this. My "knee" doctor never would have gotten to this issue. Unfortunately medical specialists often can not see outside of their own discipline. They don't see the body as a whole. I can tell that because of alignment issues, I had symptoms/pain in my feet, ankles, knees, low back, mid back and even clicking in my jaw when I walked depending on what I was doing. Your body often overcompensate when one part is not feeling good.

So a chiropractor in my case was a huge help. He also was very good and knew other disciplines. I don't live near him any more and have been to other chiropractors, but he has still been the best. Try and find reviews online to see if your local chiropractor is good.

I also recommend looking into Pilates which is fantastic for working on your core and your alignment. (The side to side movement of a defensive stance in basketball is a fantastic way to keep yourself in alignment and when I stop playing my outer thigh muscles became much stronger than my inner thigh musles which grew weak so my stance became messed up.

Also this guy helped me tremendously. When you are in proper alignemnt, your ankles, knees hips, shoulders and ear all line up when view from the side.
http://corewalking.com/
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No.

ask an insurance claims agent and they will agree.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:40 AM   #6
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I never trust people who get paid more by not solving my problem.
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No they are not real doctors and no, chiropractic is not evidenced based medicine. Going to a real MD and getting physiotherapy is the better option. If you insist on chiropractic treatment, then seek an osteopathic doctor; although some of them are crackpots as well.
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Chiropractic is not a science.

These people deny the germ theory of medicine and literraly think any problem you have is a result of subluxations of the spine. Of course the number one cause of subluxations is the birth process.

They offer temporary relief only. Your real problems will only get worse.
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the stupidity in this thread...


Yes. they are real doctors. They are DOs rather than MDs. Yes they go to school for many years to accredited universities with clinicals, clerkships, and residencies. What they do is accepted, but many insurance companies won't pay for it, not because its not real or effective, but because insurance companies naturally want to limit what they pay out. Podiatrists are not MDs, they are DPMs, Insurance won't pay for them usually unless they are diabetics, yet nobody questions whether or not they are real doctors.

Same with Dentists. They are not MDs, most health insurance won't pay for it but you can get supplemental dental coverage, etc.
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Yes. they are real doctors. They are DOs rather than MDs.
No there are clear differences between DC's and DO's.
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Yes they go to school for many years to accredited universities with clinicals, clerkships, and residencies. What they do is accepted, but many insurance companies won't pay for it, not because its not real or effective, but because insurance companies naturally want to limit what they pay out.

Podiatrists are not MDs, they are DPMs, Insurance won't pay for them usually unless they are diabetics, yet nobody questions whether or not they are real doctors.

Of course we can question the legitimacy of treatment that is based around subluxations that cannot be proven to exist. It is based on philosophy and the belief that the body's health is affected by manipulation of the spine.
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Same with Dentists. They are not MDs, most health insurance won't pay for it but you can get supplemental dental coverage, etc.
Stop trying to debate using strawmans and irrelevant points about other practices and focus on the legitimacy of chiropractic treatment.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:49 AM   #11
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Same with Dentists. They are not MDs, most health insurance won't pay for it but you can get supplemental dental coverage, etc.





I think chiropractic has it's place as a specialized physical therapy. When they start in about subluxations causing disease they lose me. That being said I think some of their therapeutic techniques can be effective in helping pts. rehabilitate after an injury.

I have quite a few chiropractors as patients and all of them have a huge chip on their shoulders about the "doctor" title. For instance:

Me: "Hi, I'm Paul. Pleased to meet you."
Chiropractor: "Hi, I'm Dr. Smith."
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that's interesting, rufus. so you're an MD who likes whipping up really scrumptious but unhealthy food? *teasing*


personally i've had good experiences with the two chiropractors i've gone to. they've been very down to earth, so maybe the "Dr." thing was more an indicator of a long-running quibble between health professions than anything else?

these two did seem to take the health system issues in stride and charged a ridiculously low fee to see them. around $20 a pop back in the early aughts. i felt embarrassed to be paying so little, but they wouldn't take any more for whatever reason. sessions were quick and their clientele was large, so maybe that was it.

anyway, i always felt better after a treatment. and one of the chiropractors was the first medical professional to point out that my shoulders are drifting forwards in their sockets. that was pretty important to find out so that i can try to resist that drift through exercises and habits, because the pull only gets stronger over time.

but, yea... chiropractors seem to be experts in alignment, if nothing else, and alignment seems to be a key issue in health... recognised by the best of the early medical experts thousands of years ago. from early yoga teachers to egyptian doctors. something like that.

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They're a joke. Don't compare them to medical doctors or dentists. You might as well visit a crystal healer or palm reader or other pseudoscience practitioner.
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They're a joke. Don't compare them to medical doctors or dentists. You might as well visit a crystal healer or palm reader or other pseudoscience practitioner.

How many folks here who are dissing chiropractors have have chronic back pain? How many have had traditional doctors fix it?

And yes, chronic conditions usually call for something more than chiropractic, if your muscles are out of alignment, you problem is probably going to return, so it should be used in conjunction with physical therapy or pilates to alleviate the long term issues. However, chiropractor was definitely the first step. I would need to stop the pain before moving on to long term care.

When my pelvis used to slip out of position. my sacrum area would lock up like a mother****er and all the muscles in my lower back would tighten (since they were now supporting more weight than the should since the bones were out of place.) This would kind of creep up on me slowly, it wouldn't be painful at first, I would just be moving slower and little stiff and later after a while if it got worse I would get severe pain. I would be walking bent over like a senior citizen. The only thing that would help would be my chiropractor. He had special table that could support the whole body, but "drop" the support in certain sections. He would push down on the area at the same time he dropped the support. It would pop everything back into place and it worked. In fact it helped me recognize the symptoms if it started happening again, I could head it off before I got to that bent over stage and schedule and go to my chiropractor.

I don't have that issue with my pelvis anymore and the long term fix was fixing my walking stance and my posture and lot of core work. I do computer work where you sitting most of your day. I use one of these at home, the no back support means you have to strengthen your core to sit upright.


Luckily the guy I went to was good and knows his stuff, but there's no doubt in my mind that my chiropractor vastly improved my health and quality of life.
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how does chiropractic work?

I guess my definition is that a chiropractor's goal is get your spine back in proper place

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is it more effective than seeing an MD?

What issues are you having? My own problems began with a torn minicus in my left knee. It was a basketball injury and you definitely want to see a doctor for that. In fact, the first time I went to the doctor, they didn't diagnose it correctly and I later had another injury in the same spot and tore it further. You need and MRI to diagnose this and eventually I needed surgery. However, when I started getting a year later pain in the OTHER knee, this orthopedist was useless in telling me what was causing it.

If you have mobility issues or stiffness or pain, that your regular doctor can't solve, I would suggest looking into a chiropractor. But do your research, the techniques they use vary widely.
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