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Old 01-05-2012, 10:09 AM   #1
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Default Amar'e Stoudemire's Early-Season Struggles

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If the first three games of the NBA season are any indication, Amar'e Stoudemire is on his way to one of his worst seasons in a very long time. He's averaging just 17.3 points per game with a PER of 15.48, according to John Hollinger, and his true shooting percentage of just 51.2, down from 56.5 percent last season. Most teams would be pleased with that production from their power forward, but the Knicks rely on Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony to score most of the team's points, and right now Stoudemire's production hasn't been enough to make the Knicks a real threat to Miami and Chicago in the Eastern Conference.

That said, Stoudemire's numbers aren't half as troublesome as the fact that he seems to be floating further and further from the rim this season. Through three games, let's look at Stoudemire's shot distribution by distance so far this year compared to last year:



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Stoudemire is taking fewer shots at the rim, fewer shots from three to nine feet, and fewer shots from 10 to 15 feet this season. Instead, he's attempting a large number of "long 2s" shots between 16 and 23 feet. He's shooting 63.6 percent at the rim through his first three games, and 26 percent on long 2s.

It's easy to look at these numbers and shrug them off. It's a small sample size. Wait until he gets a real point guard to play with. But the tape shows a trend that's difficult to ignore. The first observation that jumped out at me is how moving to power forward has hurt Stoudemire on offense, especially on isolation plays. Stoudemire went from playing 49 percent of the Knicks' center minutes last year to playing 16 percent of them this season, according to 82games.com. With another big newly acquired Tyson Chandler, most of the time on the floor, the lane is more crowded than before. This has caused Stoudemire to drive less and settle for jumpers more often when he isolates against his defender. Last season, he shot jumpers on 32.8 percent of his isolations; this year, he's shooting them 38.1 percent of time. The reason, once again, is spacing.



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Here's one recent possession with Stoudemire at power forward and Chandler at center. Chandler plays like a true center in that he doesn't camp on the perimeter and take jumpers. He plays around the rim, looking for drop-off and lob passes, as well as putback opportunities. Since Chandler sticks around the lane on offense, his defender will be there, too. In this case, Josh McRoberts is guarding Chandler, and he has both feet in the paint, ready to help if Stoudemire drives. Stoudemire sees that he has no lane and settles for a jumper. The result ain't pretty.



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Things were different last year. With Stoudemire at center, there was no other big man who needed to be in or around the paint. This opened up the middle for Stoudemire. On this possession, the Knicks' power forward and his defender are at the top of the key, which means there is no help defender in the paint. Stoudemire reads this, attacks the lane, and finishes at the rim.

Video from this season also shows that the Knicks could be using him better. In the three games Stoudemire has played, he has been involved in just one pick and roll as the screener. It's almost impossible to comprehend why a player who made a living as Steve Nash's pick-and-roll partner in Phoenix and who found similar ball-screen chemistry with Raymond Felton last year would be involved in just one pick and roll so far this season. For Stoudemire, the play is particularly effective because slipping and rolling after ball screens gets him moving to the rim, where he's all but unstoppable.

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Along with David Lee and David West, Stoudemire is one of the NBA's quickest rollers to the rim. When Stoudemire sets screens, he gets to the paint and beats help defenders to the basket more times than not. Stoudemire rolls so well after screens that the play should be effective despite the Knicks' current lackluster point guard trio of Toney Douglas, Jeremy Lin, and Iman Shumpert. In fact, more ball screens with Stoudemire should help those guards by forcing defenders to focus on stopping the roll and allowing the ball handlers to come off screens in space.

If the Knicks want Stoudemire to play closer to the basket, they need to make some changes. For starters, they should give Stoudemire the backup center minutes while Chandler is on the bench. One reason why Stoudemire posted a PER of 22.79 and scored 25.3 points per game last season is that he often matched up against centers who were slower and less athletic than him. Last year, many analysts focused on how the Knicks' lack of a true center made them a weak defensive team. Stoudemire's struggles so far this season are a reminder that the Knicks also benefited by playing small ball.

That said, the Knicks needed to get better on defense, and Stoudemire and Chandler will be playing together for a majority of their minutes. So far, the Knicks offense has looked disorganized and random, with players just floating around. Under these circumstances, Chandler naturally gravitates toward the rim, which clogs the lane and forces Stoudemire to rely on jumpers. To clear some space, the Knicks need to get more strategic about where Chandler and Stoudemire position themselves on offense. For example, when they want to isolate or post Stoudemire, they could position Chandler in the opposite corner, far enough away that his defender will have a long way to travel to help against Stoudemire's move. If that defender decides to help, Stoudemire will have a simple dump-off to a cutting Chandler. If he sticks with Chandler, Stoudemire has the space to take his man.

Another strategy the Knicks could use is to run a pick and roll with Chandler and ball handler on the strong side, then quickly reverse the ball to Stoudemire in the weak-side post. This would get Stoudemire the ball close to the basket while keeping the other defenders occupied with the ball screen.
One final offensive scheme that might help the Knicks would be to run pick and rolls with Anthony and Stoudemire. Other teams with pairs of dynamic scorers, like LeBron James and Dwyane Wade in Miami or Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook in Oklahoma City, have tried using their stars together in ball-screen situations, and have been very successful.



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Here, Stoudemire sets a screen for Anthony on the wing.



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No defense would allow Anthony to come off a screen untouched, so Kris Humphries, Stoudemire's defender, hedges hard at Anthony and traps him before he starts his dribble. This is a perfect opportunity to slip the screen, and Stoudemire, being the fantastic roll man that he is, reads it perfectly and slips to the rim with space. The result is an easy finish.

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The fact that the Knicks haven't been running this play at least five times a game is mind-blowing. Anthony isn't the most willing passer, but putting him in situations that create wide-open passing lanes and easy scoring opportunities will invite him to share the ball. If teams focus on stopping Stoudemire's roll, Anthony can look for his shot off the screen.

In all likelihood, Stoudemire won't be shooting almost half his shoots from 16 to 23 feet for the entire season. At least Knicks fans should hope he won't. Mike D'Antoni and the Knicks' coaching staff, however, would be wise to tweak their offense in ways that will make it easier for Stoudemire to get into the lane, where he's most effective. Even with Chandler guarding the rim, the Knicks can't rely on defense to win games this season. That means they need Stoudemire's offense as much as ever, and if they don't find ways to get him going, the Knicks won't make their much-hyped jump into the league's elite.

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Old 01-05-2012, 10:17 AM   #2
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Default Re: Amar'e Stoudemire's Early-Season Struggles

I posted this in another thread,probably it went unnoticed.

Amare has been rotting without pick and roll.
He became a $482648264 mil jumpshooting power forward who doesn't play any defense.

Also the fact that we never utilize him on pick and roll goes completely on the coach.
Melo maybe isn't Steve Nash but he can play pick and roll.
Not great but even if he doesn't get an opportunity for a clear pass he's too good of a scorer to miss the opportunity if defense focuses on Amare.

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Old 01-05-2012, 11:53 AM   #3
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I posted this in another thread,probably it went unnoticed.

Amare has been rotting without pick and roll.
He became a $482648264 mil jumpshooting power forward who doesn't play any defense.

Also the fact that we never utilize him on pick and roll goes completely on the coach.
Melo maybe isn't Steve Nash but he can play pick and roll.
Not great but even if he doesn't get an opportunity for a clear pass he's too good of a scorer to miss the opportunity if defense focuses on Amare.

Problem is, we're trying to mask problems instead of fixing it. The toilet at my dad's house never used to flush hard enough. At the worst times, you'd take a dump and think it's flushed, only to be notified by the next user that it floated back up to say hello. We did everything from holding down the little ball in the tank to holding down the handle longer to switching toilet tissue. End of the day, you know what fixed it? We replaced the damn toilet. That's how I feel about the Knicks. We almost never have a good pg and every year, instead of getting one, we make excuses for him and go out and get things to help them. This whole point/forward thing was doomed from the start. As much as Melo is scoring, he could probably be getting 30 a game. He just has to do too much that he's not supposed to be doing. If we run pick and roll with a solid pg, now the D has to react to those guys.Say they effectively guard it or they rotate, now if Melo relocates and the has a defender trying to guard him in a trail position. Guard Melo playing catch-up? I'll take that ALL DAY LONG. You can pretty much sign him up for 30 every game.
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Default Re: Amar'e Stoudemire's Early-Season Struggles

You feel like the Knicks are like a dump that keeps floating back up?
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:37 PM   #5
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Problem is, we're trying to mask problems instead of fixing it. The toilet at my dad's house never used to flush hard enough. At the worst times, you'd take a dump and think it's flushed, only to be notified by the next user that it floated back up to say hello. We did everything from holding down the little ball in the tank to holding down the handle longer to switching toilet tissue. End of the day, you know what fixed it? We replaced the damn toilet. That's how I feel about the Knicks. We almost never have a good pg and every year, instead of getting one, we make excuses for him and go out and get things to help them. This whole point/forward thing was doomed from the start. As much as Melo is scoring, he could probably be getting 30 a game. He just has to do too much that he's not supposed to be doing. If we run pick and roll with a solid pg, now the D has to react to those guys.Say they effectively guard it or they rotate, now if Melo relocates and the has a defender trying to guard him in a trail position. Guard Melo playing catch-up? I'll take that ALL DAY LONG. You can pretty much sign him up for 30 every game.
He's been averaging 28 per game so far,you can't say he's not scoring well.
Also I'm pretty sure he's leading the league in 4th quarter scoring.
17 against the Celtics,22 against the Bobcats and I think 13 against the Raptors.

By the way,your comparisons are hilarious.
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I don't care much about the offense. Iso ball can work if shooters can hit outside shots, and despite our slump, those shots will start to fall. Damnit I want a team with a defensive identity and the first half against the Celtics got me so excited to see us play with smarts and passion on defense. I don't know what fvcking happened.

I couldn't see the game last night, but after two solid defensive games without Amare, I see Boris lit us the fvck up and the Cats scored 120 on 60% FG.
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He's been averaging 28 per game so far,you can't say he's not scoring well.
Also I'm pretty sure he's leading the league in 4th quarter scoring.
17 against the Celtics,22 against the Bobcats and I think 13 against the Raptors.

By the way,your comparisons are hilarious.

I'm not saying Melo or Amare isn't scoring. I'm saying they have to work too hard to get their numbers becuase we have no1 to facilitate the O.
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Default Re: Amar'e Stoudemire's Early-Season Struggles

Nice article its been quite obvious that Stat doesnt want nothing to do with the paint. I can count how many times this clown has been in the post or taken the ball to the rack.
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Nice article its been quite obvious that Stat doesnt want nothing to do with the paint. I can count how many times this clown has been in the post or taken the ball to the rack.

You dont thinkat has more to do with the coach. I mean clearly Mike is trying to ram this pick and pop shit down our throats.
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I think guys are trying to have things both ways. Either D'Antoni is calling plays that are bad or he isnt calling plays. Personally I think these are excuses for Stat. Get the ball go to the rack and finish. I dont wanna hear any more whining. If you going to be the best in the game and he was tired of playing center to prolong his career make something happen.
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non of those images was tyson cloging the middle, its just easier for people to say cus we now have a big in the middle.
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I think it's about where he's catching the ball. A good coach and/or point guard would tell him to get the ball from elbow and down. Look at how high he's getting the rock. I'd tell Melo the same thing. That way, with 2 hard dribbles, you're damn near at the rim.
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I think it's about where he's catching the ball. A good coach and/or point guard would tell him to get the ball from elbow and down. Look at how high he's getting the rock. I'd tell Melo the same thing. That way, with 2 hard dribbles, you're damn near at the rim.

How's he gonna shoot 3's when he is that close to the rim?
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How's he gonna shoot 3's when he is that close to the rim?
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