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Old 01-15-2012, 04:02 AM   #1
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Default I'm not saying....I'm just saying....

When I play ball, I hustle and play hard...I have a decent shot and handles. But when I'm playing my ass off and I'm not getting any shots and someone else is jacking it up - even though he is the best on the floor - it gets annoying as fck.

And btw, I've been a laker fan for over 20 years.

Like I said, I'm not saying...I'm just saying....
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:04 AM   #2
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When I play ball, I hustle and play hard...I have a decent shot and handles. But when I'm playing my ass off and I'm not getting any shots and someone else is jacking it up - even though he is the best on the floor - it gets annoying as fck.

And btw, I've been a laker fan for over 20 years.

Like I said, I'm not saying...I'm just saying....
im just like you...except i dont care about whether or not i get shots....i just want to win...if one guy is nailing Js etc all game long then i dont care how many balls he shoots as long as he keeps scoring.
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When I play ball, I hustle and play hard...I have a decent shot and handles. But when I'm playing my ass off and I'm not getting any shots and someone else is jacking it up - even though he is the best on the floor - it gets annoying as fck.

And btw, I've been a laker fan for over 20 years.

Like I said, I'm not saying...I'm just saying....

Me too
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:05 AM   #4
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who is the one not getting enough shots?

barnes 1-6
gasol 7-17
bynum 6-13

u dont think those are their shot amounts?

do u want morris taking 10 jumpers a game?
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:06 AM   #5
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I'm just saying you are f**king idiot. Who's not getting any shots? Pau and Bynum get plenty of shots. It's our bench that worth shit. We are also not getting enough from the PG and SF on offense. Defense seems to be on the right track. LA's problem this year is not because of Kobe supposedly "chucking".
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Which Lakers has good handles, played hard and hustled?
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:10 AM   #7
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Bynum is getting more FGA than any center in the league despite the fact that his TS% is a pedestrian 53%. Pau is getting plenty of touches and as much FGA as he got when he was the #1 option. Both of them are getting plenty of touches. I'll never understand the fascination of blaming Kobe even as he continues to be by far the best player on the court. Besides, the Lakers have won 9/12 and have a top 4 defense in the league. Their effort level and hustle has been excellent all year. People act like this is some 7th/8th seed caliber team.
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I'm just saying you are f**king idiot. Who's not getting any shots? Pau and Bynum get plenty of shots. It's our bench that worth shit. We are also not getting enough from the PG and SF on offense. Defense seems to be on the right track. LA's problem this year is not because of Kobe supposedly "chucking".

kobe takes as many shots as pau and drew combined per game...and both those guys shoot over 53%.

kobe is taking by far the 2nd most fga per game in his career....the only one higher being the year he avg 35ppg because he had NOBODY around him.

How are drew and pau supposed to come through in the clutch and get kobe's "trust" when they barely see the ball down the stretch? You can't freeze them out and then expect them to do their thing on queue
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You don't think the game was lost on the glass? Pau and Andrew hustled and played hard giving away 7 offensive board in the 1st quarter alone?
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You don't think the game was lost on the glass? Pau and Andrew hustled and played hard giving away 7 offensive board in the 1st quarter alone?

i'm not talking about tonight....and i'm not just bringing it up b/c they lost tonight either...

tonight was the glass yes.

kobe is amazing. but dude needs to pull it back a little b/c going for 40 isn't gonna work long-term, in the playoffs, or against quality teams, IMO.
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i'm not talking about tonight....and i'm not just bringing it up b/c they lost tonight either...

tonight was the glass yes.

kobe is amazing. but dude needs to pull it back a little b/c going for 40 isn't gonna work long-term, in the playoffs, or against quality teams, IMO.

but in general you said kobe shooting as much as pau and bynum together doesnt work.

so how do u ideally want it ? Pau and bynum shooting more than kobe means THEY need more shots, not the other scrubs.. I doubt u want barnes taking 14 shots. So what is your ideal statline? Every time pau shoots over 15 I'm pretty sure he shoots like 40%
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i'm not talking about tonight....and i'm not just bringing it up b/c they lost tonight either...

tonight was the glass yes.

kobe is amazing. but dude needs to pull it back a little b/c going for 40 isn't gonna work long-term, in the playoffs, or against quality teams, IMO.
Have you watched the previous games? Because Pau and Andrew have been playing lethargic the past week and Kobe had to go chucking mode to keep the team afloat. When Bynum has been the #1 option he can't handle the defense focusing on him, same for Gasol today when he was the leader of the second unit in the 2QT.
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kobe takes as many shots as pau and drew combined per game...and both those guys shoot over 53%.

kobe is taking by far the 2nd most fga per game in his career....the only one higher being the year he avg 35ppg because he had NOBODY around him.

How are drew and pau supposed to come through in the clutch and get kobe's "trust" when they barely see the ball down the stretch? You can't freeze them out and then expect them to do their thing on queue

Do you think our bigs would continue to shoot over 53%(which isn't mind blowing) if they got the ball that much more? Teams adjust to what you are doing and you have to be able mix your offense up. The current Lakers aren't as good as the back to back championship teams but Kobe's not the reason. There are a lot of fans and people in the press that are in a hurry to find fault with Kobe. When he plays well they look foolish and then their fangs come out. It's sad.
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Pau isn't aggressive and Drew can't handle doubles. No one else is any kind of a scorer.
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but in general you said kobe shooting as much as pau and bynum together doesnt work.

so how do u ideally want it ? Pau and bynum shooting more than kobe means THEY need more shots, not the other scrubs.. I doubt u want barnes taking 14 shots. So what is your ideal statline? Every time pau shoots over 15 I'm pretty sure he shoots like 40%

i'm not gonna pretend like I know the perfect distribution....

I just know that when I'm watching games there are seemingly obvious times when kobe should pass the ball instead of taking the shot because there is a higher % shot available (although I wouldn't give it to artest for even an open layup).
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