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Old 01-23-2012, 03:24 PM   #16
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they reflect what the general fan expected...yes they did, don't argue it
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Dallas fans have to have low expecations and standards if you dont think the team underachieved. I bet Jerry Jones would say it. How long ago was it when you let everyone know how many pro bowlers were on Dallas? Oh ok. Remember when I told you Dallas wasnt that good this season and you argued otherwise? Ok ok part II.

Bad memory is what you have. But since you posted power rankings you'll use that and ignore everything else. Typical of you tho, I dont expect nothing less. Dallas cant be considered underachievers because power rankings doesnt support such a claim!
so you expected great things from the Cowboys?

apparently you did
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Biggest overachievers:
1. Colts: They won 2 games, holy shit.
2. Browns: Easily have the worst roster in the NFL but still find ways to win.
3. Eagles: They won 8 games with the most incompetent coaching staff in the NFL.

Underachievers:
1. Broncos: They have the second coming of Jesus but they only won a single playoff game? Guess it just shows God doesn't like rapists, Ben Roethlisberger.

2. Dallas Cowboys: Team has the #1 QB of all time*, #1 RB of all time*, #1 FB, of all time*, #1, #2, #4 WRs of all time*, #1 TE of all time*, #1 LT of all time*, #1 LG of this decade8, #1 C of all time*, best RG and RT in the NFL today*, the most ferocious defense ever seen* on this green earth but the best they could do is muster an 8-8 season?

3. Packers: Good to see them go deep into the playoffs.

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I'm just curious as to why teams would arbitrarily get a pass because of injuries. Were there teams that were injury free this season?
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they reflect what the general fan expected...yes they did, don't argue it

No, they don't. They reflect what five voters at ESPN expected.

"With the 2011 regular season in sight, our voters (ESPN.com's John Clayton, ESPN.com's Ashley Fox, AFC South blogger Paul Kuharsky, NFC West blogger Mike Sando and AFC North blogger James Walker) ..."
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I'm just curious as to why teams would arbitrarily get a pass because of injuries. Were there teams that were injury free this season?
because expectations become low at that point...obviously

even in the power rankings they comment on Peyton having to be healthy for that to be true
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No, they don't. They reflect what five voters at ESPN expected.

"With the 2011 regular season in sight, our voters (ESPN.com's John Clayton, ESPN.com's Ashley Fox, AFC South blogger Paul Kuharsky, NFC West blogger Mike Sando and AFC North blogger James Walker) ..."
they are decent representation


I suppose Vegas Super Bowl odds preseason would be the EXACT...based on what every gambler expected


maybe I can dig those up
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because expectations become low at that point...obviously

even in the power rankings they comment on Peyton having to be healthy for that to be true

Well, if they even said it in the power rankings...
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Preseason Vegas Odds to Win Super Bowl XLVI:
Odds to win Super Bowl XLVI All bets will stand even if a shortened season occurs

Indianapolis Colts +1415
San Diego Chargers +1015
New England Patriots +645
Pittsburgh Steelers +1015
Baltimore Ravens +1615
Cincinnatti Bengals +8050
New Orleans Saints +1615
Dallas Cowboys +1615
Minnesota Vikings +3250
Philadelphia Eagles +1415
Green Bay Packers +685
Arizona Cardinals +6550
Atlanta Falcons +1415
New York Giants +1815
Chicago Bears +3250
San Francisco 49ers +4250
Washington Redskins +5250
Seattle Seahawks +8550
Denver Broncos +6050
New York Jets +1615
Jacksonville Jaguars +6050
Miami Dolphins +4050
Buffalo Bills +10250
Kansas City Chiefs +4050
Carolina Panthers +8050
Tennessee Titans +4050
Cleveland Browns +6050
Houston Texans +3050
Oakland Raiders +4050
Tampa Bay Buccaneers +3050
St Louis Rams +4050
Detroit Lions +4050

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they are decent representation



Maybe, maybe not. Immaterial, because that's not what you claimed they were.

"they reflect what the general fan expected...yes they did, don't argue it"

"again..."I" didn't...the public did"

"Dallas fans don't...the public did"


Just tough to have any kind of faith in your source material when you feel the need to spin it as something that it's not.

So based on the odds above, dallas was the biggest disappointment in the NFC. Every other conference team with equal or better odds finished ahead of them.

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in order:

New England Patriots +645
Green Bay Packers +685
Pittsburgh Steelers +1015
San Diego Chargers +1015
Philadelphia Eagles +1415
Indianapolis Colts +1415
Atlanta Falcons +1415
New York Jets +1615
Baltimore Ravens +1615
New Orleans Saints +1615
Dallas Cowboys +1615
New York Giants +1815
Tampa Bay Buccaneers +3050
Minnesota Vikings +3250
Chicago Bears +3250
Miami Dolphins +4050
Kansas City Chiefs +4050
Tennessee Titans +4050
Houston Texans +3050
Oakland Raiders +4050
St Louis Rams +4050
Detroit Lions +4050
San Francisco 49ers +4250
Washington Redskins +5250
Jacksonville Jaguars +6050
Cleveland Browns +6050
Denver Broncos +6050
Arizona Cardinals +6550
Carolina Panthers +8050
Cincinnatti Bengals +8050
Seattle Seahawks +8550
Buffalo Bills +10250
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Maybe, maybe not. Immaterial, because that's not what you claimed they were.

"they reflect what the general fan expected...yes they did, don't argue it"

"again..."I" didn't...the public did"

"Dallas fans don't...the public did"


Just tough to have any kind of faith in your source material when you feel the need to spin it as something that it's not.
those rankings do represent what most of us thought though...it isn't like they were way off base or anything...
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those rankings do represent what most of us thought though...it isn't like they were way off base or anything...

Oh, ok. Post that poll when you get a chance.
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New England Patriots +645
Green Bay Packers +685
Pittsburgh Steelers +1015
San Diego Chargers +1015
Philadelphia Eagles +1415
Indianapolis Colts +1415
Atlanta Falcons +1415
New York Jets +1615
Baltimore Ravens +1615
New Orleans Saints +1615
Dallas Cowboys +1615
New York Giants +1815
Tampa Bay Buccaneers +3050
Minnesota Vikings +3250
Chicago Bears +3250
Miami Dolphins +4050
Kansas City Chiefs +4050
Tennessee Titans +4050
Houston Texans +3050
Oakland Raiders +4050
St Louis Rams +4050
Detroit Lions +4050
San Francisco 49ers +4250
Washington Redskins +5250
Jacksonville Jaguars +6050
Cleveland Browns +6050
Denver Broncos +6050
Arizona Cardinals +6550
Carolina Panthers +8050
Cincinnatti Bengals +8050
Seattle Seahawks +8550
Buffalo Bills +10250

So dallas is the NFC equivalent of the Chargers. Fair enough.
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So dallas is the NFC equivalent of the Chargers. Fair enough.
um no, the Chargers were heavily favored
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