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Old 02-11-2015, 02:57 PM   #1
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Default Came across metric stats for Deion Sanders and Champ Bailey

Supposedly these leaked a while back from a guy who worked at STATS LLC. and supposedly they started in 1995 so any numbers before that don't exist.

I've never seen Deion metrics until now, thought it was really cool to see...I might be the only one that thinks this is thread worthy but whatev...

Deion:
1995 -- 16-for-47 - 158 yards - 34.0% CT - 0 TD - 2 INT - 26.7 PRA
1996 -- 22-for-46 - 225 yards - 47.8% CT - 0 TD - 2 INT - 44.2 PRA
1997 -- 12-for-39 - 159 yards - 30.7% CT - 0 TD - 2 INT - 23.3 PRA
1998 -- 20-for-42 - 198 yards - 47.6% CT - 0 TD - 5 INT - 21.8 PRA
1999 -- 29-for-53 - 425 yards - 54.7% CT - 2 TD - 3 INT - 70.1 PRA
2000 -- 31-for-63 - 463 yards - 49.2% CT - 1 TD - 4 INT - 52.5 PRA

2004 -- 10-for-21, 92 yards, 0 TD (9 games)
2005 -- 26-for-41, 333 yards, 3 TD (16 games)

Champ:
1999 -- 54-for-113, 830 yards, 4 TD (16 games)
2000 -- 42-for-81, 488 yards, 0 TD (16 games)
2001 -- 40-for-91, 613 yards, 5 TD (16 games)
2002 -- 52-for-98, 567 yards, 2 TD (16 games)
2003 -- 50-for-88, 684 yards, 3 TD (16 games)
2004 -- 49-for-83, 768 yards, 6 TD (16 games)
2005 -- 49-for-97, 680 yards, 5 TD (14 games)
2006 -- 50-for-95, 610 yards, 2 TD (16 games)


Deion's numbers are much better than Champ's which isn't surprising...
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:36 PM   #2
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Default Re: Came across metric stats for Deion Sanders and Champ Bailey

Deion wasnt even starting in 04 and 05 correct? I dont remember him starting in Baltimore they had Chris McCallister. Seems like Deion reign ended in 98. Which makes sense given how his career went.


Any way to get other CBs metrics or this is something you gotta get lucky to come across?
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Default Re: Came across metric stats for Deion Sanders and Champ Bailey

Yeah Deion was a nickle with the Ravens, at age 37-38, still pretty impressive.

This was leaked from a guy who worked at STATS LLC, I came across them of Football's Future.

The story is that STATS LLC has a data base from everything starting at 1995, and I guess the NFL will use them to pull up random shit during games, IDK? Anyway, just the Deion and Bailey numbers leaked, there is no way to access other players from the 90s that I know of.
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Default Re: Came across metric stats for Deion Sanders and Champ Bailey

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Yeah Deion was a nickle with the Ravens, at age 37-38, still pretty impressive.

This was leaked from a guy who worked at STATS LLC, I came across them of Football's Future.

The story is that STATS LLC has a data base from everything starting at 1995, and I guess the NFL will use them to pull up random shit during games, IDK? Anyway, just the Deion and Bailey numbers leaked, there is no way to access other players from the 90s that I know of.

Yeah I'm on that site too but its so large not sure what forum this was revealed in. Probably the comparison forum no? Kind of sucks some of these stats wont be revealed, just a cool read. Ah well.

And yeah still impressive for Deion. 95-98 is downright filthy tho.

Champ got targeted a lot it seems. Sheesh
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Default Re: Came across metric stats for Deion Sanders and Champ Bailey

Found them in a thread where someone is asking if Revis is the GOAT

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...1171&start=150



Yeah QBs just weren't that scared to throw at Bailey like they were Deion.

A couple of those years Deion missed some games to injury though, so the numbers aren't for all 16 games and he would have had a few more targets.
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Default Re: Came across metric stats for Deion Sanders and Champ Bailey

Yup. I actually wondered if that was you on FF yesterday.

Posted them in the Brady thread here too when the conversation got sidetracked. AdamJT13 is a very reliable guy, confirmed by BlaqOptic on Football's Future. Deion missed games, but it's a 50-game sample size from 95-98, and the per game metrics are crazy great. I took the liberty of configuring the Passer Rating (PRA) and Completion % Against based on what Adam provided.

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The modern athlete is just so more advanced doe. Poor man's Dee Miliner in today's NFL.
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The funny thing is, prime Deion would be the fastest, most athletic guy in the league today. I don't see the rule changes negating his dominance much considering he patented his game around speed and agility rather than physicality. His actual coverage skills, technique and ball skills were all outstanding too. If Richard "4.5" Sherman is All-Pro today, Primetime is still GOAT today.
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Yup. I actually wondered if that was you on FF yesterday.

Posted them in the Brady thread here too when the conversation got sidetracked. AdamJT13 is a very reliable guy, confirmed by BlaqOptic on Football's Future. Deion missed games, but it's a 50-game sample size from 95-98, and the per game metrics are crazy great. I took the liberty of configuring the Passer Rating (PRA) and Completion % Against based on what Adam provided.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...366988&page=24
Wtf, I feel like that is a strange coincidence that you just recently posted those in here as well.

It's cool to see Sherm's and Revis numbers laid out as well...these type of stats can be surprisingly difficult to come by if you don't want to shell out money to PFF.
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Wtf, I feel like that is a strange coincidence that you just recently posted those in here as well.

It's cool to see Sherm's and Revis numbers laid out as well...these type of stats can be surprisingly difficult to come by if you don't want to shell out money to PFF.

Yeah, really difficult actually. I finally gave in to a one month subscription a few days ago. The biggest appeal of what they offer is undoubtedly the coverage metrics. Also find the stuff like snaps played, QB hits and hurries useful too. J.J. Watt defies all logic for a 3-4 DE. What he does is absolutely impossible. Well, Bruce Smith was also dominant as one in terms of pass rushing playing in that alignment but we don't have the more in depth stuff.
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Deion might be the greatest athlete of all time.
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Default Re: Came across metric stats for Deion Sanders and Champ Bailey

Why doesn't it show Champs interceptions?

And although I def agree Deion was better, these stats are deceicing, because they played in dif eras. Champ played more recently when teams started to throw a lot more and that's why he took more yards and TDs. IMO

They are both 2 of my fav players of all time
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Yea but Champ could actually tackle and not that pu$$y shoestring swipe Deion would try
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Interceptions: Woodson 71; Sanders 53
Interception TDs: Woodson 12; Sanders 9
Tackles: Woodson 1,050; Sanders 492
Sacks: Woodson 13.5; Sanders 1.0
Pro Bowls: Woodson 11; Sanders 8
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Interceptions: Woodson 71; Sanders 53
Interception TDs: Woodson 12; Sanders 9
Tackles: Woodson 1,050; Sanders 492
Sacks: Woodson 13.5; Sanders 1.0
Pro Bowls: Woodson 11; Sanders 8
Targets: Woodson 1,000,000
Years played: Woodson 17

Tackles are generally a bad sign for a CB...it usually means the WR caught the ball

Deion: "you show me a CB that makes a lot of tackles and I'll show you a CB that isn't doing his job. "

Woodson was great though, arguably #2 overall.
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