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Old 01-15-2013, 12:35 AM   #46
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Forgot about that one. Good call. Pittsburgh had an insane defense that year & Brady performed very well.

Weather in that game: 9 degrees, wind 20 mph, wind chill -10.

If the standard for absolutely murdered is throwing the ball 21 total times for 207 yards and a couple touchdowns, then

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He knocked off the #1 seed Chargers in '06.

Yeah, while playing terrible.

The Pats knocked them off while overcoming a bad quarterback performance.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:42 AM   #47
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lol at blaming Brady for his 2006 performance. That was prol the worst WR corps I've ever seen from an all-time great of a QB.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:53 AM   #48
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If the standard for absolutely murdered is throwing the ball 21 total times for 207 yards and a couple touchdowns, then



Yeah, while playing terrible.

The Pats knocked them off while overcoming a bad quarterback performance.
you do realize Peyton was awful in his Superbowl run right? And he pretty much got carried by his defense? Pey Pey never had and never will have the post-season that 2004 Brady had.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:10 AM   #49
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you do realize Peyton was awful in his Superbowl run right? And he pretty much got carried by his defense? Pey Pey never had and never will have the post-season that 2004 Brady had.

Yes, I've said numerous times that we overcame Peyton' poor play in the first two games of the run. But he also had his career defining game vs. the Patriots and then played against one of the best defenses of the 2000's in brutal conditions and played a big hand in helping us win the superbowl game.

Maybe if THE TEAM helped out a bit more during subsequent playoff runs we would have more titles.

Watch Tom Brady play next sunday.

Watch him when he hands the ball off. Ask yourself, is Brady blocking? Is he running the ball? Watch him when he passes the ball, does he block for himself? Does he throw the ball, and catch it himself?

Then watch him sitting on the bench for half the game.

Then tell me how in the **** it makes any sense how you and most everyone else judges quarterbacks.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:11 AM   #50
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If the standard for absolutely murdered is throwing the ball 21 total times for 207 yards and a couple touchdowns, then



Yeah, while playing terrible.

The Pats knocked them off while overcoming a bad quarterback performance.

Where in my post did I say he murdered the Steelers? He performed very well against the best defense in the NFL on the road.

And it is amazing Brady was able to put up good numbers in '06 with the lack of weapons he had on offense. If Brady had wide receivers who could actually catch the ball that year he would of beat your choking bro Manning the next week.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:15 AM   #51
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Yes, I've said numerous times that we overcame Peyton' poor play in the first two games of the run. But he also had his career defining game vs. the Patriots and then played against one of the best defenses of the 2000's in brutal conditions and played a big hand in helping us win the superbowl game.

66 degrees with some rain. Talk about "brutal" conditions.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:22 AM   #52
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Yes, I've said numerous times that we overcame Peyton' poor play in the first two games of the run. But he also had his career defining game vs. the Patriots and then played against one of the best defenses of the 2000's in brutal conditions and played a big hand in helping us win the superbowl game.

Maybe if THE TEAM helped out a bit more during subsequent playoff runs we would have more titles.

Watch Tom Brady play next sunday.

Watch him when he hands the ball off. Ask yourself, is Brady blocking? Is he running the ball? Watch him when he passes the ball, does he block for himself? Does he throw the ball, and catch it himself?

Then watch him sitting on the bench for half the game.

Then tell me how in the **** it makes any sense how you and most everyone else judges quarterbacks.
I'm not judging him because he is more of a winner than he is. I'm judging him because he is better in the post-season and can adapt to better weather.

Peyton didn't even play that well in the Superbowl either. And yeah, like it's really hard to outplay Rex Grossman.

He didn't play well at all aside from that comeback in the AFC Championship game either and there would have no need for a comeback if he didn't play like shit in the first half anyways.

Peyton is a more skilled QB than Brady is. I don't think there is actual aspect that Brady is actually better than Manning in. Manning is more accurate with every type of pass, more mobile, etc. but the problem is that Manning does not utilize his skills in the playoffs as well as Brady does or in different weather conditions and that is why Brady is better.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:25 AM   #53
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66 degrees with some rain. Talk about "brutal" conditions.


Revisionist history.

It was much worse than you make it sound. Go back and watch the game, listent to people talk about how bad/rough the conditions were.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:28 AM   #54
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66 degrees with some rain. Talk about "brutal" conditions.
He can play in the rain, too bad he can't play in the snow or in the cold which is what playoff weather is usually like outdoors.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:16 AM   #55
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Why do people use wins and losses to debate who is the better QB? Why so much ****ing emphasis on playoff stats like they're the end-all, be-all to an argument? QBs who play in a lot of playoff games are going to have the numbers.

If you take away Favre's 2 worst playoff games, then he has pretty similar stats to Brady.
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Why do people use wins and losses to debate who is the better QB? Why so much ****ing emphasis on playoff stats like they're the end-all, be-all to an argument? QBs who play in a lot of playoff games are going to have the numbers.

If you take away Favre's 2 worst playoff games, then he has pretty similar stats to Brady.
Because you make your mark of greatness in the playoffs, Brady did it, Pey Pey did not.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:20 AM   #57
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Who will be remembered in history as a better qb:

Drew Brees vs Peyton Manning
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:38 AM   #58
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Because you make your mark of greatness in the playoffs, Brady did it, Pey Pey did not.

That's dumb, but you do like saying dumb things. How can you count fewer games over more games?


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Drew Brees vs Peyton Manning

Brees has a ways to go to catch Manning.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:48 AM   #59
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Who will be remembered in history as a better qb:

Drew Brees vs Peyton Manning

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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8842846


ESPN Poll:

Who is the better quarterback in the playoffs? Tom Brady or Joe Montana?


Results:

925,000 votes

Tom Brady 50%

Joe Montana 50%


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Peyton was not even put on the poll. Obviously, based on those results, if Brady wins another Superbowl, he is taking GOAT status.

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