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Old 02-07-2012, 05:35 PM   #16
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Default Re: In the same mins, Jordan has more PTs/RBs/ASTs/BLKs/STLs but less TOs then Kobe

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different era's...and pace.

Look at Oscar's Stats and minutes compared to Jordan....or Wilt's

Jordan in the modern era would be a 42%fg putting up 25 - 30PPG in his prime/modern era.

just think that in the 80's there were over 30 players who scored over 24PPG on 50%FG......

it has only been done 5times in the past 12 years.

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:36 PM   #17
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Also, Jordan has never quit on his team in the playoffs and finals unlike Kobe.

Please explain your statement? When, what, where, why....how?
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:36 PM   #18
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different era's...and pace.

Look at Oscar's Stats and minutes compared to Jordan....or Wilt's

Jordan in the modern era would be a 42%fg putting up 25 - 30PPG in his prime/modern era.

just think that in the 80's there were over 30 players who scored over 24PPG on 50%FG......

it has only been done 5times in the past 12 years.

It is actually a much easier/softer era today. Just look at all the rule changes that pu$$ifies the league. Did you see how the late 80s/early 90s Pistons play? Or how about the mid-90s Knicks? Tackling a player mid-air is considered a foul or a warning. Today, it equals suspension.

Jordan would do more damage to today's kids not just because of his basketball skills but his athleticism and physical prowess.
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:36 PM   #19
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Please explain your statement? When, what, where, why....how?

Off the top of my head, Kobe quit against the PHO series. I believe this is the one where LAL had like a 3-1 lead and then PHO came back to win the series. He quit on them and refused to take any shot in I believe one half of the game.

He also quit during the last game of the series when BOS won the championship. Jordan never quits on his team even when his team is down... especially in the Finals!

There are more but it's hard to type on my phone.
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:38 PM   #21
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:47 PM   #22
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No not really. 90's Doesn't equal the 2000's.

You still spew nonsense.
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:58 PM   #23
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No not really. 90's Doesn't equal the 2000's.

You still spew nonsense.

Yea... in the 90's you could actually touch guards and play real defense.

Kobe's TS% in the playoffs before hand checking was .515%
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:02 PM   #25
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:05 PM   #26
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Irrelevant in this case cause he would have more assists to go along with more turnovers.

No, it's not. Like I said, Kobe's not a natural play maker and he never will be. He would, however, have less turnovers if he wasn't handling the ball as much as he does, and I'd argue he'd be slightly more efficient too.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:43 AM   #27
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No, it's not. Like I said, Kobe's not a natural play maker and he never will be. He would, however, have less turnovers if he wasn't handling the ball as much as he does, and I'd argue he'd be slightly more efficient too.

Right. But when it comes to his stats in comparison to Jordan, with a greater playmaker role not only would he have more turnovers, but he also should have more assists. Thats not the case though. Thats why it really doesn't have much to do with Scottie Pippen, and more to do with the fact that he's just not as great of a passer/playmaker as Jordan.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:20 AM   #28
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Default Re: In the same mins, Jordan has more PTs/RBs/ASTs/BLKs/STLs but less TOs then Kobe

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different era's...and pace.

Look at Oscar's Stats and minutes compared to Jordan....or Wilt's

Jordan in the modern era would be a 42%fg putting up 25 - 30PPG in his prime/modern era.

just think that in the 80's there were over 30 players who scored over 24PPG on 50%FG......

it has only been done 5times in the past 12 years.

But at 40 years old way past his prime, he averaged 20pts on .445 fg% and only 4.0 ft attempts.

His TO wasn't the high TO avg that some (Kobe fans) fantasize about either.

A prime MJ would obliterate today's era.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:30 AM   #29
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Default Re: In the same mins, Jordan has more PTs/RBs/ASTs/BLKs/STLs but less TOs then Kobe

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Off the top of my head, Kobe quit against the PHO series. I believe this is the one where LAL had like a 3-1 lead and then PHO came back to win the series. He quit on them and refused to take any shot in I believe one half of the game.

He also quit during the last game of the series when BOS won the championship. Jordan never quits on his team even when his team is down... especially in the Finals!

There are more but it's hard to type on my phone.

unless the Birmingham Barons need a first string benchwarmer


Jordan mythologists are the most delusion fan base around. No player has quit like Jordan has.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:34 AM   #30
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unless the Birmingham Barons need a first string benchwarmer


Jordan mythologists are the most delusion fan base around. No player has quit like Jordan has.

What? There's a difference between quiting in the offseason and quitting in a game.
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