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Old 02-08-2012, 11:37 AM   #61
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Team 1 takes has a slow place and scores 50 points in 50 possessions

Team 2 has a fast pace and scores 100 points in 100 possessions

The opposing team defensive rating for the game 100.0 for both games



There are thousands of different scenarios you can make up
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:39 AM   #62
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yeah and? what percentage did they make?

Yeah and? What do you mean yeah and? 3PT are worth an extra point.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:44 AM   #63
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If MJ was on the league today, they would have to put the handcheck back because he would score so much it would be boring.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:45 AM   #64
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Yeah and? What do you mean yeah and? 3PT are worth an extra point.


Did you know the 2000 Hornets were a better defensive team than the 1996 Chicago Bulls???
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:45 AM   #65
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Yeah and? What do you mean yeah and? 3PT are worth an extra point.

so if anything they would increase a teams defensive rating since there are more of them

3 times .349 = 1.05 points per possession the avg def rating was 103.6

More 3 pters increased their defensive rating it did not decrease it

Come up with a new theory please..
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:49 AM   #66
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so if anything they would increase a teams defensive rating since there are more of them

3 times .349 = 1.05 points per possession the avg def rating was 103.6

More 3 pters increased their defensive rating it did not decrease it

Come up with a new theory please..



I don't think even you know what you're talking about now.

Pace in 2003: 91.0; Pace in 1991: 107.9 -- any questions?
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:50 AM   #67
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I like how you guys who dislike defensive ratings are completely ignorant of that fact that it is composed completely of offensive statistics.

If its "wrong" for being too high.... the offensive numbers from that era are "wrong". Don't you get that you dopes?

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Old 02-08-2012, 11:51 AM   #68
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I don't think even you know what you're talking about now.

Pace in 2003: 91.0; Pace in 1991: 107.9 -- any questions?

Yeah my question is what does that have to do with anything?
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:55 AM   #69
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Yeah my question is what does that have to do with anything?

600 more 3PA = more PPP = more reliant on your half court offense = less pace (points/offense in transition) = better defensive rating

Maybe if you used your brain we wouldn't have to spoon feed you?
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600 more 3PA = more PPP = more reliant on your half court offense = less pace (points/offense in transition) = better defensive rating

Maybe if you used your brain we wouldn't have to spoon feed you?

YMF was soooooo sure he had found the Magic Bullet to take down MJ, and basically ran into another brick wall, because he wanted "Defense Rating" to be the "Be All, End All", and it's not. Poor kid.........

Give him props though, he's dedicated
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600 more 3PA = more PPP = more reliant on your half court offense = less pace (points/offense in transition) = better defensive rating

Maybe if you used your brain we wouldn't have to spoon feed you?


breaks down where the bolded ends

Its a really simple formula

Points scored divided by # of possessions defended times 100.

The Suns didnt just slow down there offense because they shoot more 3s than they did in the 90s. You are just making a blindless leap grasping at straws trying to make sense of it all.
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YMF was soooooo sure he had found the Magic Bullet to take down MJ, and basically ran into another brick wall, because he wanted "Defense Rating" to be the "Be All, End All", and it's not. Poor kid.........

Give him props though, he's dedicated

The Kobe cult will do just about anything to defend their man. I call it hero worship.
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breaks down where the bolded ends

Its a really simple formula

Points scored divided by # of possessions defended times 100.

The Suns didnt just slow down there offense because they shoot more 3s than they did in the 90s. You are just making a blindless leap grasping at straws trying to make sense of it all.

No, the Suns just decided to never play defense. Look where that got them. What's D'Antoni doing these days?

Who's next?
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The Kobe cult will do just about anything to defend their man. I call it hero worship.

Yeah, stay tuned for Yao Ming's Foot to blame teams holding the ball longer during the shot clock as the reason Kobe couldn't catch up to MJ in points sooner. Or rebounds. or assists. Or blocks and steals. Or MVPs. Or Finals MVPs. Or................
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