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Old 02-08-2012, 01:45 PM   #16
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Havilcek is much better than Pierce. He has him in nearly everything. Hondo is regarded as one of the 15 best players of all time. He was ranked 12th on the all time list in Simmons' book. He's just on a whole new level. He's a legend.

McHale is another choice. He was offensively more devastating, tougher to stop, had a better arsenal of moves and was defensively better. Sure, he didn't have as successful career as Pierce, but he did achieve well. His peak is also better and was more tougher.

Cowens is debatable.
How in hell McHale's career wasn't succesfull? Just because he wasn't the 1# option? Everybody knows he would've been if not because he played with the best in the world.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:46 PM   #17
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13 posts in and only one mention of Kevin McHale?

The guy would have averaged 25/10, if he played on those terrible Celtic teams.
It goes both ways. Individual numbers could have been better for those Celtics in the past, and PP would have more accolades would he played on those stacked teams from the past. It's hard to compare, and will always be so.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:09 PM   #18
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Russell
Bird
Havlicek
Pierce/McHale
Cowens/mchale>pierce
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:59 PM   #19
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Cowens/mchale>pierce

Nope, Cowens didn't play quite long enough and Bird made Mchale and Parrish hall of fame players. They would have had quite good careers, but not HOF.

Russell
Havlicek
Bird
Pierce
Cousy.

None of them was a beneficiary, all self made who made others better.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:04 PM   #20
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Number 4, behind Russell, Bird and Havlicek.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:32 PM   #21
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1. Bill Russell
2. Larry Bird
3. Hondo
4. Paul Pierce
Pretty much this. Pierce is easily the most underrated and under-appreciated player in the 2000s decade.
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After Bird, Russell, Mchale, Cowens (criminally underrated), and Havlicek probably.
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