Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > NBA Forum

NBA Forum NBA Message Board - NBA Fan Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-07-2012, 12:48 PM   #1
guy
NBA All-star
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 9,242
guy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation here
Default Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

I keep hearing people say this whenever Lebron not winning a title yet comes up. Its not the same. Stop bringing it up.

1. Lebron was 26 at the end of last season, his 8th season. Jordan was 26 at the end of 1989, his 5th season. Lebron has 3 years more NBA experience and 3 more chances at the same age.
2. Jordan had never choked and shrunk for an entire series the way Lebron has the past 2 seasons.
3. Jordan's teams in his first 5 seasons never lost as the favorite nor were they as good as Lebron's teams in the past 3 seasons, ESPECIALLY last season.

Point is Lebron is NOT on Jordan's pace like people want to imply when they bring this up and he's already had monumental failures that Jordan's never had.

Last edited by guy : 02-07-2012 at 12:50 PM.
guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 12:55 PM   #2
LakersReign
Banned
 
LakersReign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: I Stand Alone
Posts: 4,426
LakersReign has a very bad reputationLakersReign has a very bad reputationLakersReign has a very bad reputationLakersReign has a very bad reputation
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Nothing new here since REAL NBA fans already know this. Just hilarious watching the bandwagon Lebron fans try to draw lines to dots that aren't there, just to continue to prop him up. There's nothing remotely similar between them, and those who try to make any sort of comparison clearly know nothing of what they speak.
LakersReign is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 12:57 PM   #3
RRR3
Where the White Women?
 
RRR3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 15,387
RRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation here
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

RRR3 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 12:58 PM   #4
LA_Showtime
Call me the Mamba
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 14,792
LA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLA_Showtime is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Just goes to show you how difficult it is to win a championship, let alone two, three, four, etc. I think a lot of people thought LeBron would have a ring by now, even though history suggests a lot of great players never even get an opportunity to play for a championship.

I hate to bring up Kobe Bryant, but consider he's spent almost half of his career playing in the Finals. That is just an amazing accomplishment by itself.
LA_Showtime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:01 PM   #5
kennethgriffin
NBA sixth man of the year
 
kennethgriffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,048
kennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these parts
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

no difference here

lebron had to wait for kobe, dirk, duncan to be past their primes to get a chance

jordan had to wait for Magic, Bird and isaih to be past their primes to get a chance

same thing. different era


both jordan and lebron are lame
kennethgriffin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:11 PM   #6
Nevaeh
National High School Star
 
Nevaeh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,175
Nevaeh is a pretty well-respected posterNevaeh is a pretty well-respected posterNevaeh is a pretty well-respected poster
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Quote:
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
no difference here

lebron had to wait for kobe, dirk, duncan to be past their primes to get a chance

jordan had to wait for Magic, Bird and isaih to be past their primes to get a chance

same thing. different era


both jordan and lebron are lame

Better than "waiting" on the bench during a "weak era" before you can get a chance to Start, Amirite? You're becoming more and more bitter with age Griff.
Nevaeh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:12 PM   #7
RRR3
Where the White Women?
 
RRR3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 15,387
RRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation here
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevaeh
Better than "waiting" on the bench during a "weak era" before you can get a chance to Start, Amirite? You're becoming more and more bitter with age Griff.
Don't forget this great moment against the "weak 90's defense".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws2yhBzJjis
Godbe
RRR3 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:13 PM   #8
Andrei89
Yes We Did
 
Andrei89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 8,816
Andrei89 has decent reputation
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Quote:
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
no difference here

lebron had to wait for kobe, dirk, duncan to be past their primes to get a chance

jordan had to wait for Magic, Bird and isaih to be past their primes to get a chance

same thing. different era


both jordan and lebron are lame

Kobe rode Shaq. If he was in on the Hornets...

he too had to wait for Duncan, Wade and Shaq to get a chance
Andrei89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:15 PM   #9
kennethgriffin
NBA sixth man of the year
 
kennethgriffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,048
kennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these parts
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevaeh
Better than "waiting" on the bench during a "weak era" before you can get a chance to Start, Amirite? You're becoming more and more bitter with age Griff.

lol if lebron came in the league behind 2 allstars at both positions he could have played... he would have rode the bench aswell

sometimes paying your dues comes in handy. it makes you work harder to improve your game. unlike those who get all the hype and all the shots handed to them from day one

16 years later kobes added dozens of moves to his game

9 years later lebrons added nothing to his game


Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrei89
Kobe rode Shaq. If he was in on the Hornets...

he too had to wait for Duncan, Wade and Shaq to get a chance

lmfao kobe sha*t all over prime duncan on the regular and won titles with 29ppg at the same time

then took his team to the finals 3 straight years at a time when wade and lebron were both prime and claimed another 2 titles

kobe gets it done against any prime legend of any era

Last edited by kennethgriffin : 02-07-2012 at 01:18 PM.
kennethgriffin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:16 PM   #10
RRR3
Where the White Women?
 
RRR3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 15,387
RRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation hereRRR3 has an incredible reputation here
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Quote:
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
lol if lebron came in the league behind 2 allstars at both positions he could have played... he would have rode the bench aswell

sometimes paying your dues comes in handy. it makes you work harder to improve your game. unlike those who get all the hype and all the shots handed to them from day one

16 years later kobes added dozens of moves to his game

9 years later lebrons added nothing to his game
Yep, Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel...legendary all-stars right there
RRR3 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:20 PM   #11
kennethgriffin
NBA sixth man of the year
 
kennethgriffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,048
kennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these parts
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Quote:
Originally Posted by RRR3
Yep, Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel...legendary all-stars right there

well not legendary. but allstars yea

no way an unproven rookie bumps an allstar to the bench
kennethgriffin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:23 PM   #12
Kblaze8855
Titles are overrated
 
Kblaze8855's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: I love me some me.
Posts: 12,838
Kblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Rookie Lebron was as good as or better than anyone on the 97 Lakers short of Shaq ever were. I doubt that is easily hidden. Kobe was raw. Lebron was never that. He was raw compared to what he is now. He wasnt just....a rookie finding his way.

Kobe wasnt starting because he wasnt very good. He was talented and great one on one. But he wasnt just....a really good player.
Kblaze8855 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:26 PM   #13
kennethgriffin
NBA sixth man of the year
 
kennethgriffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,048
kennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these partskennethgriffin has an EXTREMELY bad reputation around these parts
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
Rookie Lebron was as good as or better than anyone on the 97 Lakers short of Shaq ever were. I doubt that is easily hidden. Kobe was raw. Lebron was never that. He was raw compared to what he is now. He wasnt just....a rookie finding his way.

Kobe wasnt starting because he wasnt very good. He was talented and great one on one. But he wasnt just....a really good player.

scoring wise maybe. but your forgetting that eddie jones was a 2nd team all defender

and even if lebron was better. he would still be forced to come off the bench just out of respect for the other guy

you have to earn your spot. especially on a winning team with expectations. if the coach started lebron over jones and they lost. everyone would have blamed the coach and said "LA would have won if they started jones"

i'm not saying a rookie kobe is as good as a rookie lebron... lebron was clearly better because he had an nba ready body

fact is lebron would not have started on a contender with allstars infront of him
kennethgriffin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:27 PM   #14
Kblaze8855
Titles are overrated
 
Kblaze8855's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: I love me some me.
Posts: 12,838
Kblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

And Eddie Jones put up 13/4 in 96. He was hardly some established star. Quite a few rookies could start in his place coming in.
Kblaze8855 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:28 PM   #15
guy
NBA All-star
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 9,242
guy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation hereguy has an incredible reputation here
Default Re: Jordan not winning yet at Lebron's age is not the same thing: STOP BRINGING IT UP

Quote:
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
scoring wise maybe. but your forgetting that eddie jones was a 2nd team all defender

and even if lebron was better. he would still be forced to come off the bench just out of respect for the other guy

you have to earn your spot. especially on a winning team with expectations. if the coach started lebron over jones and they lost. everyone would have blamed the coach and said "LA would have won if they started jones"

i'm not saying a rookie kobe is as good as a rookie lebron... lebron was clearly better because he had an nba ready body

fact is lebron would not have started on a contender with allstars infront of him

Rookie Lebron would've easily started over Eddie Jones. It wasn't a "respect" thing. Eddie Jones was just better then Kobe at that time.
guy is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:40 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site













Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy