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Old 01-13-2013, 09:46 PM   #46
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Default Re: Best US president ever ?

It's between Reagan, Lincoln, and Eisenhower. There's no debate.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:49 PM   #47
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Bill Clinton and FDR




Clinton is so overrated. Clinton shouldn't be mentioned in the same breathe as FDR.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:55 PM   #48
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Thomas Jefferson was probably the most racist president lol.

So youre saying hew was the best?
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:15 PM   #49
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Clinton has always been my personal favorite
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:16 PM   #50
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Thomas Jefferson had slaves, so don't you think he was sort of a hypocrite?

The cute idea of freedom is always evolving. In 200 years from now(if we even make it that far) I wonder what they would be saying about our notion of freedom??
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:18 PM   #51
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my personal favorite is Nixon, more so because I find his persona interesting. How can someone who had all his self doubts and paranoia reach the highest office in the land???
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:24 PM   #52
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my personal favorite is Nixon, more so because I find his persona interesting. How can someone who had all his self doubts and paranoia reach the highest office in the land???

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Old 01-13-2013, 10:28 PM   #53
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Can you describe the video I can't access it from work
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:33 PM   #54
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Can you describe the video I can't access it from work

Just a Futurama Nixon video, they are talking about why they would/wouldn't vote for him.

I love Futurama's Nixon.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:43 PM   #55
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Just a Futurama Nixon video, they are talking about why they would/wouldn't vote for him.

I love Futurama's Nixon.

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The only one who's changed is me. I've become more bitter and, let's face it, crazy over the years. And when I'm swept into office, I'll sell our children's organs to zoos for meat, and I'll go into people's houses at night and wreck up the place!

my fav Nixon quote, I also love Evil Lincoln
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Abe.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:47 AM   #57
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Who killed vampires when they were still president? That's my favorite president.
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Old 01-14-2013, 02:17 AM   #58
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Default Re: Best US president ever ?

Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, FDR on my short list.

I have Washington out front. Many posts in this thread talk about him being overrated but I believe he is in fact underrated.

There are Presidents who have accomplished more during their Presidency, but Washington's impact on the office itself cannot be overstated. I really believe that ANY other man from Jefferson, to Madison, etc. and the U.S. would not have been as successful in those early years, and may have in fact collapsed a bit. (I don't think completely because along with Washington you had a large collection of extremely capable politicians, which is something the British didn't take into account... and I'm getting off track).

Washington is still the standard bearer for the office. Here, I advise you to read his farewell address.

All of the founding fathers, indeed even the Revolution itself, if muddled with myth these days, but Washington is the one man that, the farther I go into history, he still seems to live up to it.
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Thomas Jefferson had slaves, so don't you think he was sort of a hypocrite?

Regarding Jefferson's slaves:

He was given them when he was 14, and was not legally allowed to free them. He actually tried hard to do so, and was a vocal opponent of slavery. He just lived in the wrong times politically to get anything done about it.

I'm sure he could of fought of harder against slavery, especially as president, although doing so would of political suicide during his time.
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