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Old 02-22-2012, 09:36 AM   #16
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You can spell Championship without Carmelo. Actually, it's the only way to spell it.
You must be real happy right now as a Knicks fan seeing you post that.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:38 AM   #17
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The Celtics are built for the playoffs - they are like the anti-Chicago Bulls. They will stumble through the regular season and barely finish above .500, but in a short series they can be a major pain for anyone.

Celtics are a geezer team that the barely beat the Bulls without Rose AND Hamilton playing.

Bulls in 5 at the most. Maybe a sweep.

It's amazing how little respect the Bulls get when they've been winning with injuries to key players. They haven't played 5 games all season at full strength.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:39 AM   #18
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Celtics are a geezer team that the barely beat the Bulls without Rose AND Hamilton playing.

Bulls in 5 at the most. Maybe a sweep.
When healthy, yes.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:57 AM   #19
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the last thing you want is a grind-it-out 7 game series in the first round

Lin+Melo+Amare+Chandler - will they be a real threat?

Wil the Celtis come alive in the playoffs?

Yeah I dont think either the Heat or Bulls need to worry that much. Altho I like our chanses against the Bulls better for LeBron reasons.

Likely wont matter anyhow, I dont like our chances right now.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:01 AM   #20
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Celtics are a geezer team that the barely beat the Bulls without Rose AND Hamilton playing.

Bulls in 5 at the most. Maybe a sweep.

It's amazing how little respect the Bulls get when they've been winning with injuries to key players. They haven't played 5 games all season at full strength.
Talking about how good the Bulls would be "if Rip was healthy" this year reminds me of what we Cs fans were thinking could happen "if Shaq was healthy" last year. I won't argue that he makes them better but can you bank on him healing?

Overall Chi is an excellent team with Rose healthy (him you can count on if they rest him enough for the postseason). Only EC team better is Miami, but NY is scary if they ever get Lin Melo and Stat going simultaneously.
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No. Both the Knicks and Celtics can get a win over the other 2 teams but in a 7 game series there is no way (in my mind) they can beat either the Bulls or Heat.

Celtics are just too old (sadly) and the Knicks are inconsistent and don't play good D.
You ****ing retard the Knicks are top 8 in defense. The myth that they don't play defense is beyond me.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:13 AM   #22
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Talking about how good the Bulls would be "if Rip was healthy" this year reminds me of what we Cs fans were thinking could happen "if Shaq was healthy" last year. I won't argue that he makes them better but can you bank on him healing?

Overall Chi is an excellent team with Rose healthy (him you can count on if they rest him enough for the postseason). Only EC team better is Miami, but NY is scary if they ever get Lin Melo and Stat going simultaneously.
Well, we got to the ECF last year without a quality starter at the SG position. I think if Rip can play it gives us a decent chance to beat Miami (them still being the favorites though) if he does, we're gonna get a replay of last year. The Heat shutting down Rose, him having a lot of turnovers and missed shots.. bad shooting percentage, and everybody talking about Rose 'choking' when in reality he can't carry that kind of a load by himself.

It's ridiculous really, when you think about it.. How this works.
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You ****ing retard the Knicks are top 8 in defense. The myth that they don't play defense is beyond me.
.. Stop talking like you're some 15 year old girl. The Knicks have been better defensively because Melo and Stat have been out of quite some time. Walker and Jeffries have been getting more minutes and they are both better defenders then Carmelo and Stoudemire. One of the first things I noticed when Melo got back on the floor against Dallas is he switches quite alot on D because he's too lazy to run after somebody and that created easy mismatches. There were so many possessions of Fields or Lin or Shumpert on Dirk and Marion.. Why do you think that happened?
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.. Stop talking like you're some 15 year old girl. The Knicks have been better defensively because Melo and Stat have been out of quite some time. Walker and Jeffries have been getting more minutes and they are both better defenders then Carmelo and Stoudemire. One of the first things I noticed when Melo got back on the floor against Dallas is he switches quite alot on D because he's too lazy to run after somebody and that created easy mismatches. There were so many possessions of Fields or Lin or Shumpert on Dirk and Marion.. Why do you think that happened?

Perfect example of the Knicks D was vs the hornets...knicks down 2 with 40 secs left Amare makes an idiotic mistake and bang easy lay-up for Hornets who go up by 4 and thats game over...those are the kind of plays that Amare makes defensively which is why people say Knicks are still bad defensively.
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Talking about how good the Bulls would be "if Rip was healthy" this year reminds me of what we Cs fans were thinking could happen "if Shaq was healthy" last year. I won't argue that he makes them better but can you bank on him healing?

Overall Chi is an excellent team with Rose healthy (him you can count on if they rest him enough for the postseason). Only EC team better is Miami, but NY is scary if they ever get Lin Melo and Stat going simultaneously.

Bulls being overly-cautious with Hamilton's groin is a little bit different than Shaq basically running like he had an elephant on his back for the past 2 years.

But yeah, the Bulls will likely not be fully healthy at all this season thanks to the godawful schedule.
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If the Celtics don't get broken up and are healthy, and they play the Bulls, I believe they'll beat them.
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If the Celtics don't get broken up and are healthy, and they play the Bulls, I believe they'll beat them.

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It's amazing how little respect the Bulls get when they've been winning with injuries to key players. They haven't played 5 games all season at full strength.
This...its crazy how we get so underrated at times while Miami gets put on this godly throne as completely invincible. Bulls are arguably the BEST TEAM in the NBA when fully healthy and clicking. We haven't had many opportunties to show it do to injuries, but the Clippers game was the perfect representation. The freaking Clippers, who are probably the second best west team in the NBA got toyed with by the fully healthy Bulls. Even when CP3 tried to get hot and go clutch, it STILL wasn't enough with Rose taking it and his entire team to the next gear.

Hell even look at the Heat-Bulls game, Lebron decided to take it to the next level, and Rose promptly took his challenge head on. Imagine if we had the full team playing that game. A Fully healthy Bulls teams is absolutely dangerous. Hopefully the basketball gods are being nice and letting us get all our injuries out the way now so we can be fresh for playoffs. Or as fresh as possible.

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Bulls being overly-cautious with Hamilton's groin is a little bit different than Shaq basically running like he had an elephant on his back for the past 2 years.

But yeah, the Bulls will likely not be fully healthy at all this season thanks to the godawful schedule.

Neither will most teams......
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