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Old 02-21-2012, 08:46 PM   #1
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Default Why is Kobe considered unclutch now?

I don't get it. What are the numbers people use to disprove him and during his prime.
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:53 PM   #2
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i watch kobe a lot and kobe hasn't really shown up at all in the clutch since 09-10
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:54 PM   #3
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i watch kobe a lot and kobe hasn't really shown up at all in the clutch since 09-10
yeah i know but there are people out there saying even in his prime he wasn't clutch because of a bunch of stat, curious to see the FLAWS of the stat
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:56 PM   #4
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Default Re: Why is Kobe considered unclutch now?

you have to consistently be clutch to be considered ... clutch

kobe has hardly been "clutch" this season, so far
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:59 PM   #5
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Default Re: Why is Kobe considered unclutch now?

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I don't get it. What are the numbers people use to disprove him and during his prime.

its called watching the game. not everyone files through numbers to see how good a player is.

my problem with kobe being clutch is that over the last few years he would hit game winners against teams that they should have blown out. when you need to force a game winning shot against a 2010 timberwolves or clippers team, being clutch or not is the least of your problems.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:00 PM   #6
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its called watching the game. not everyone files through numbers to see how good a player is.

my problem with kobe being clutch is that over the last few years he would hit game winners against teams that they should have blown out. when you need to force a game winning shot against a 2010 timberwolves or clippers team, being clutch or not is the least of your problems.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:39 PM   #7
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you have to consistently be clutch to be considered ... clutch

kobe has hardly been "clutch" this season, so far
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:42 PM   #8
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Default Re: Why is Kobe considered unclutch now?

His FG percenage in crunch time (10 seconds or something) is 33%. Not exactly killer. I read this somewhere... somebody confirm if you want.

He's just had so many opportunities to do it.
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Default Re: Why is Kobe considered unclutch now?

He wasn't as clutch as he has been hyped anyway.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:54 PM   #10
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all i know is kobes hit like 50 game winning/ go ahead shots or free throws in his career and has the nickname "the closer" and was team USA's mvp in the gold medal game for 4th quarter.. and without him lebron would have 2 bronze and 1 silver medal in his trophy case

this is like when kobe was asked about henry abbots article.. and kobe said "guess i'm not clutch" and everyone in the room laughed their a**'s off

its because when you watch a game. youl realise that if kobe hits the shot. the games over.. if he misses. he'l get atleast 2-3 more wild shots. maybe one from 4 feet behind the line and one last heave from center court..

so that right there is messing with the percentages

and then theres the situation if he hits the shot and the other team is forced to foul... so instead of kobes last fg counting as the game winner... its ruined by the last points being a bunch of ft's by kobes team mates...

so if kobe makes it... it doesnt count. but if he misses.. it counts as a missed game winning attempt

this is why abbots system was flawed...
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Default Re: Why is Kobe considered unclutch now?

Kobe's always been extremely overrated in the clutch, along with being overrated in big games and the playoffs and finals in general.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:22 PM   #12
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Because people are using Kobe as a way to boost up Lebron James, Kevin Durant and whoever their favorite player is. Not everyone can be clutch every single time. Some players make clutch shots on one night, and miss the same shot another night. Its called life.
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The only thing the stats do is show that Kobe isn't anymore likely to hit those shots than most of the other star players in the league....the stats separate the hype and biasness out of it....face it Laker fans, your too busy watching Kobe to know what the other players are doing, and vice versa.
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The only thing the stats do is show that Kobe isn't anymore likely to hit those shots than most of the other star players in the league....the stats separate the hype and biasness out of it....face it Laker fans, your too busy watching Kobe to know what the other players are doing, and vice versa.
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