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Old 03-13-2012, 03:57 PM   #31
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We're way past the day and age of mid-majors and majors. The "mid-majors" that make the tournament and win a game or two (at least) are filled with experienced seniors and juniors who have developed great chemistry over three or four seasons and know their coach's system inside and out. In contrast, we're seeing less experienced teams at a lot of the elite programs since their best talent comes and stays only one or two seasons. Yes, 7-8 times out of 10 the gap in talent, size, and athleticism for the elite programs is going to prevail, even in a one-game scenario, but it should be no surprise when a team chock-full of experienced and seasoned seniors and juniors "upsets" a team like Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, etc. who are playing a lot of sophomores, freshmen, and juniors who sat on the bench most of their freshman and sophomore years.
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We're way past the day and age of mid-majors and majors. The "mid-majors" that make the tournament and win a game or two (at least) are filled with experienced seniors and juniors who have developed great chemistry over three or four seasons and know their coach's system inside and out. In contrast, we're seeing less experienced teams at a lot of the elite programs since their best talent comes and stays only one or two seasons. Yes, 7-8 times out of 10 the gap in talent, size, and athleticism for the elite programs is going to prevail, even in a one-game scenario, but it should be no surprise when a team chock-full of experienced and seasoned seniors and juniors "upsets" a team like Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, etc. who are playing a lot of sophomores, freshmen, and juniors who sat on the bench most of their freshman and sophomore years.

True. But that requires a much deeper thought process than pointing and screaming "CHOKERS! CHOKERS!"

And notice OP has still not committed to picking Detroit.
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:02 PM   #33
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We're way past the day and age of mid-majors and majors. The "mid-majors" that make the tournament and win a game or two (at least) are filled with experienced seniors and juniors who have developed great chemistry over three or four seasons and know their coach's system inside and out. In contrast, we're seeing less experienced teams at a lot of the elite programs since their best talent comes and stays only one or two seasons. Yes, 7-8 times out of 10 the gap in talent, size, and athleticism for the elite programs is going to prevail, even in a one-game scenario, but it should be no surprise when a team chock-full of experienced and seasoned seniors and juniors "upsets" a team like Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, etc. who are playing a lot of sophomores, freshmen, and juniors who sat on the bench most of their freshman and sophomore years.

Maybe, but there are differences even among Mid-Major teams. Among the four choking jobs Bill Self completed, the only excusable loss was the one against VCU last year because they were actually somewhat of a good team. Do not expect me to believe that teams like Bucknell were even supposed to win against any top teams.
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:55 AM   #34
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Maybe, but there are differences even among Mid-Major teams. Among the four choking jobs Bill Self completed, the only excusable loss was the one against VCU last year because they were actually somewhat of a good team. Do not expect me to believe that teams like Bucknell were even supposed to win against any top teams.

Bucknell came in as an upset darling. They were among the better shooting teams in the country, playing 4-5 seniors, 3 of whom accounted for a lions share of the teams points. They also had a solid big man with legitimate size, one of the things that typically eludes that type of program.

They went on to beat much higher seeded Arkansas the next season in a first round game.

KU's #2 scorer was down with the flu. And, as far as "choking" goes, Bucknell had the game won with about 1:30 to go (ball and a 5 pt lead). Missed FT, 2 TO (only committed 7 previously in the game) and committed a dumb foul on an offensive rebound. Their big hit a running hook shot to win the game by 1.

Again, you are way out of your depth.
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Old 03-26-2012, 09:56 AM   #36
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:10 AM   #37
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OP is a retard, but they were awfully lucky early on. This was not far off base.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:27 PM   #38
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OP is a retard, but they were awfully lucky early on. This was not far off base.

Every team left has had a close call or two.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:44 PM   #39
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Not so.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:06 PM   #40
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Not so.

Kentucky trailed in the second half vs Iowa State and Indiana was within 3 with 5:00 to go.

Gonzaga had an open shot to tie OSU with 90 seconds remaining.

Only team Louisville hasn't struggled against was Michigan State.
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You know what is my thought at this time?


"Even a blind hog finds shiit once in awhile"

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You know what is my thought at this time?


"Even a blind hog finds shiit once in awhile"

Yep. Except you tried and failed. Mightily.
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You know what is my thought at this time?


"Even a blind hog finds shiit once in awhile"

Yeah, I gues even a blind hog gets to 2 Final 4's in the past 4 seasons.

I hope Kansas wins it all just so you look like an even bigger moron.
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Well that was just a metaphor anyway, Bill Self is still slightly better than an average coash so hes way better than a blind hog.
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