After more research, the bat was actually a dog leash. And the man that was murdered had a mental problem.
The police have stated that just because an arrest hasnt been made doesnt mean it wont be made. And he should be arrested. It sounds as if the black guy was just as trigger happy as Zimmerman.
I am a big supporter of concealed carry and the right to defend one's self. However I think the authors of SYG didn't anticipate these sorts of gray area scenario's and the law needs to be refined.
I only hope that politicians can see the distinction and fix the SYG laws instead of using it as a blanket excuse to further legislate gun control.
I agree. Needs to be some clear distinctions made on when the law can be invoked or we are going to have an epidemic of people using it in a wide array of situations.
I am a big supporter of concealed carry and the right to defend one's self. However I think the authors of SYG didn't anticipate these sorts of gray area scenario's and the law needs to be refined.
I only hope that politicians can see the distinction and fix the SYG laws instead of using it as a blanket excuse to further legislate gun control.
Hold up, aren't you the one that's a big proponant of stand your ground? And who instigates the altercation? Sounds kind of hypocritical
I am not pro-Zimmerman. I just think that it's stupid that everyone rushes to support Martin and talks about how terrible it is that he was killed.
wow, do you know how stupid you sound???
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It's only because he was black that everyone rushes to defend him. ANd they put Zimmerman as a random thug that went around shooting people.
Zimmerman called the kid hateful names without knowing him or with the kid doing anything to him or his community. GZ has profiled the kid as being harmful. Then GZ pursued him with a gun. GZ was told not to pursue the kid. KZ knew he had weight on the kid. The kid had skittles in his hand. For no reason a young kid dies at the hands of a guy that has called cops on seven year olds playing. A guy that has a very aggressive record. A guy that has lost security work and attacked an officer and his fiance' because of his aggressive nature. A kid that ran from him got killed.
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Which is also not true. We don't have enough facts at the moment to know whether it really was in self-defense or not that Martin was shot, though we'd like to think there are.
If GZ stays in his car - a young man lives. If GZ mind is average, a kid lives. If GZ doesn't have a too aggressive nature, a kid lives. If GZ doesn't have a gun a kid lives. If GZ didn't profile, a kid lives. GZ left his car in pursuit of a boy he seems to hate for no reason with a gun. If somebody rolls up on your family like that you want them to have leniency to claim self defense???
And btw, If the kid sees GZ with a gun pursing him the kid has a right to protect himself.
Zimmerman called the kid hateful names without knowing him or with the kid doing anything to him or his community. GZ has profiled the kid as being harmful. Then GZ pursued him with a gun. GZ was told not to pursue the kid.
If GZ doesn't have a too aggressive nature, a kid lives.
IMO, these are the most damaging facts that simply CANNOT be disputed, and why George will go to prison.
Zimmerman has, frankly laid out a perfect picture to be painted due to his past, and the actual events leading up to the shooting. His profiling on the phone of Martin shows you the ACTUAL state of mind, that George is, and has been in for quite some time.
Im not exactly sure wtf Martin's past has to do with that at all?
To be honest, Trayvon being this or that, to me....is irrelevant, as the entire reason this ALL went down was due to Zimmerman's own nature, AND his irrational actions.
IMO, these are the most damaging facts that simply CANNOT be disputed, and why George will go to prison.
Zimmerman has, frankly laid out a perfect picture to be painted due to his past, and the actual events leading up to the shooting. His profiling on the phone of Martin shows you the ACTUAL state of mind, that George is, and has been in for quite some time.
Im not exactly sure wtf Martin's past has to do with that at all?
To be honest, Trayvon being this or that, to me....is irrelevant, as the entire reason this ALL went down was due to Zimmerman's own nature, AND his irrational actions.
If GZ stays in his car - a young man lives. If GZ mind is average, a kid lives. If GZ doesn't have a too aggressive nature, a kid lives. If GZ doesn't have a gun a kid lives. If GZ didn't profile, a kid lives. GZ left his car in pursuit of a boy he seems to hate for no reason with a gun. If somebody rolls up on your family like that you want them to have leniency to claim self defense???
You forgot the most important one.
If Trayvon doesn't attack Zimmerman, the kid lives.
If Trayvon doesn't attack Zimmerman, the kid lives.
That's your wishful thinking. And like I said if you are totally cool with people rolling up on your family with hate in them, a gun and an aggressive nature be careful of what you wish for. And if somebody in your family has it in them to fight back, since it seems like it won't be you. Don't curse them - they did what they were supposed to do.
If Trayvon doesn't attack Zimmerman, the kid lives.
Again, some of you shmucks keep saying this, but this is the part that we do NOT know for sure yet as far as who initiated the "attack" first.
We have one side, and a witness who saw, after the altercation took place.
What we DO know is that George Zimmerman, initiated the entire situation, because he would.....not.....stand.....down.......as....infor med.....by.....actual authority via the 911 dispatch operator.
George Zimmerman is not qualified to pursue a person he deems a "suspect". Nor is he trained to handle that situation. Which is why we now have a dead teenager.
That man was in an agitated state of mind before the incident. IGNORED being told to not pursue, and then proceeded to get himself involved in this mess. How can anyone defend that level of negligence?
The Trayvon Martin case makes me sick. It's disgusting how his parents make him look like an angel, which is all bullshit. He's been suspended 3 times from school, once for supposed drug use and another for suspected burglary. According to his mom they're trying to kill his reputation by leaking that. Then good. His reputation SHOULD be killed. I don't know what really happened when he was killed, but he shouldn't be look at as someone who was slain without possible reason.
So if you died under controversial circumstances, you'd expect your parents to air all your dirty laundry... Haha what a clown
- Liberals think following someone is a crime WRONG
- Liberals think asking someone a question is a crime WRONG
- Liberals think assault is the proper response if you are a victim of following or question-asking WRONG, no one knows who initiated the physical confrontation
- Liberals think defending one's self from assault is a crime WRONG
- Liberals think 911 telephone operators have the authority to issue legally binding orders to the general public. WRONG, but if George had decided not to follow Trayvon he would not be in this situation, correct?
- Liberals think justice is best determined by knee-jerk emotional reactions instead of careful investigation WRONG
- Liberals think disagreeing with the narrative makes you a racist and automatically invalidates your opinion WRONG. You don't see how ridiculous you look as well stating Trayvon started the physical confrontation on the word of the guy who killed him?
- Liberals think the validity of facts is dependent on whether or not the facts fit their personal narrative Says the go who just on the word of George has stated Trayvon started the physical confrontation.
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