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Old 07-01-2013, 05:00 PM   #4261
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Kevin, you think the defense has the greater burden of proof?

Do you have reading problems? I thought I spelled it out quite clearly.

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Old 07-01-2013, 05:05 PM   #4262
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I'm sensing a lot of anger in this thread

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we know exactly what happened .. this whole trial is a bunch of bullsh .. politically motivated bs ..

.. gz was keeping an eye on tm because he was suspicious of tm .. he continued keeping an eye on him and tracking him so the police would know where tm was when they got there .. gz ended up losing sight of tm .. tm was annoyed that this 'creepy ass cracka' was eyeing him and tracking him .. after all, wtf is gz to be doing that .. that annoyance turned to anger and he swung at gz

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Old 07-01-2013, 05:09 PM   #4263
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I'm sensing a lot of anger in this thread





no anger .. that's just the hunch I'm getting
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:12 PM   #4264
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I'm almost convinced tray tray attacked gz .. the prosecution is getting their asses handed to them and the defense hasn't even put on their own case

Wow sounds almost like a regular teenager getting into fights. Definitely deserves to get shot.
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:13 PM   #4265
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Hilarious all these excuses being made up for a punk like Martin.
Every time some kid dies in a shooting, you see their parents on camera saying they were angels and never hurt anyone. Then the media gets some nobodies who barely knew the individual to reinforce that point by stating "He didn't seem like a bad person, he kept to himself". Then later on you find out the guy was involved with a gang and got shot after some fight in a club.

Targeted shootings don't happen to innocent people, outside random street shootings with stray bullets. If you are specifically picked, chances are you did something.

My brother had a friend that was gunned down outside his house, with my brother and his friends inside. The dude regularly jacked drug dealers and made lot of enemies, he mighta killed some people himself. But obviously after his death he was just another angel that never did any wrong.
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:17 PM   #4266
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Wow sounds almost like a regular teenager getting into fights. Definitely deserves to get shot.

you can kill someone in a fight .. but that's not the main focus .. it's about if you're in fear for your life or fear of serious bodily harm which gz was in
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:25 PM   #4267
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On cross, Serino admitting that there were no clear inconsistencies in GZ's interviews



prosecution continues getting slaughtered .. this is too obvious
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:31 PM   #4268
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that case is completely different from this case .. she got hammered for discharging the gun and shooting a warning shot .. warning shots, ironically enough are frowned upon more than actually shooting someone because it shows that you weren't really in danger because you didn't shoot the person and could've hurt innocents ..

You're not in danger because you just showed the person you'll ****ing shoot them if they try anything. How can you say that person wouldn't really be in danger if they hadn't fired that warning shot? Were they supposed to wait until the other person seriously wounded them first as you just said to me? As for the TM case, I'm just saying that I don't feel Zim was in as much danger as he lets on.

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but when your neighborhood's getting constantly burglarized, some people are gonna get fed up .. he probably pushed the issue a bit too much but I'm not gonna condemn him for being more vigilant and taking a more proactive approach to crime watching and protecting his neighborhood .. that doesn't make him an 'evil person'

Don't you see what happens when paranoid and incompetent people like Zim go beyond their means? Why did he feel the need to get out of his car and go after him? When you overstep your boundaries because the gun you're carrying gives you courage, then where does responsibility come into play? I try to look at it from both perspectives of Zim and Trayvon, but it's a bit difficult when you don't have all the pieces to the puzzle.

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people are full of shit .. they like to pick and choose when to get outraged .. everywhere I read, people talk about gz as if he's the spawn of the devil .. no rational thought or objectivity .. he's guilty of being a ****in dumbass with bad judgement but to get the type of hate he's getting doesn't fit

You think it only applies to Zim? What about all the negativity that Trayvon has gotten from people?
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:42 PM   #4269
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I haven't really been following this circus, but it sounds like the prosecution doesn't have much of a case here.

Think we'll see some rioting if Zimmerman walks?
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:49 PM   #4270
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you can kill someone in a fight .. but that's not the main focus .. it's about if you're in fear for your life or fear of serious bodily harm which gz was in

You just can't going around shooting people with impunity because you fear for your life. If someone punches me in the face, does that mean I can shoot them because I fear for my life? We don't know who actually started the fight, we only hear one side of the story because the other party is dead. And who's to say Trayvon didn't fear for his life? If someone I don't know if following me around, especially since he has a gun, who's to say Trayvon wasn't acting in self defense?
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:51 PM   #4271
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You're not in danger because you just showed the person you'll ****ing shoot them if they try anything. How can you say that person wouldn't really be in danger if they hadn't fired that warning shot? Were they supposed to wait until the other person seriously wounded them first as you just said to me? As for the TM case, I'm just saying that I don't feel Zim was in as much danger as he lets on.

I'm going by how the law is interpreted .. according to the law, if you take out your gun and shoot, it better be to shoot someone dead(because they were threatening your life) .. what you said is true and I agree .. I don't have a problem with warning shots .. that's one of those laws I have a problem with .. but that's how they interpret it

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Don't you see what happens when paranoid and incompetent people like Zim go beyond their means? Why did he feel the need to get out of his car and go after him? When you overstep your boundaries because the gun you're carrying gives you courage, then where does responsibility come into play? I try to look at it from both perspectives of Zim and Trayvon, but it's a bit difficult when you don't have all the pieces to the puzzle.

I believe he got out of the car to not lose track of tm per the 911 call .. the dispatcher was asking him were tm was so he got out to track him ..

I'm not applauding and cheering on gz for shooting tm .. he should've used better judgement .. it's just a really shitty situation all around ..

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You think it only applies to Zim? What about all the negativity that Trayvon has gotten from people?

you make a point

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Old 07-01-2013, 05:59 PM   #4272
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Just another day.

a W for the defense, L for the prosecution
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:11 PM   #4273
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MOM" You were also under quite a lot of external pressure to move this case forward, right?"

Serino: "Yes, I was."


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Old 07-01-2013, 06:11 PM   #4274
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If someone punches me in the face, does that mean I can shoot them because I fear for my life?
Depending on where you are? Yes.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:13 PM   #4275
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