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Old 07-03-2013, 11:52 AM   #4471
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I would also like to add Raymone isn't even black and just mocking the "ghettoness" of black people with that name and photo.

What a racist prick.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:54 AM   #4472
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Also an alter account. Dude has no life and spends most of his time trolling black people on ISH.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:00 PM   #4473
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It is a failure of the Trayvon's laywer's Zimmerman might get off. A strategy like that could easily get a 2nd murder conviction at the least (and 1st if they were ambitious enough).

Iamrambo > Trayvon's lawyers

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Old 07-03-2013, 01:08 PM   #4474
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So Zimmerman said he didn't know about the laws but got an A in this guys law class and was one of the best students. Then he apparently took another online class where the topic was covered as well. The connection, not that the prosecution is good at highlighting this stuff, is apparently that Zim is an consistent liar because he knows how the law works and is suiting everything to meet the laws as he knows it. Didn't see this one coming - and its the first time I see the prosecution using their wits. But they still have to tie it in good and hard for it to work.

OK, just heard the prosecution made it less ominous than what I said above. They are saying his police ambitions, would be the reason he might be lying to try to initially get a stand your ground case.
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:57 PM   #4475
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I almost want them to find him not guilty just to spite this chris farley looking **** on the bench
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:58 PM   #4476
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He also said guessing a person's age based on what he heard is hard to do. I would hardly call that "expert" opinion. An expert opinion would be to use scientific methodologies to identify specific sound recognition by tonality, frequency, and other stimuli.

He basically said, "Based on my sh*tty hearing, I don't think that could be so and so." Yea that is the expert opinion idiots like bmulls is falling hardline for.

So you don't know who the guy is, but you feel confident in putting "expert" in quotes. And you claim it's not scientific, even though the guy is an actual scientist with dozens of peer reviewed articles in this field who has actually, been the guy who created the computer programs and "scientific methodologies" used in computer assisted speaker recognition technologies. Nakasone has literally been the guy building these tools for longer than you have been alive.

You also reveal your pretension and your poor intellectual foundations when you misuse words like tonality and stimuli.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:57 PM   #4477
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Hearing this is the biggest day in the court.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:24 PM   #4478
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Someone explain this picture.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:25 PM   #4479
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It's been pretty obvious to me since I learned the facts of this case that Zimmerman is in all likelihood is going to be acquitted of Murder 2. The state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman didn't shoot Martin out of self defense. As of now, pretty much all of the evidence is inconclusive, the witnesses have largely been unreliable and the prosecution has been grasping at straws to show that Zimmerman had a violent intent. Is it possible that Zimmerman started the fight and shot Martin for the hell of it? Sure. Is there a reasonable doubt that he didn't? Absolutely.

The media, of course is trying to spin things as though the prosecution is ripping Zimmerman a new one because it boosts their ratings.

It's a very hard case for the prosecutors because they charged him with murder 2 with virtually no evidence to back it up. There's simply not enough evidence to prove beyond any reasonable doubt and the prosecution overreached on the charges like they did with Casey Anthony. They have no evidence Zimmerman chased him and tried to detain him with the intent to harm him and satisfying the dispatcher's request of "He ran? Which way did he run to?" are two very different things. Assuming someone is acting suspicious and following them isn't a crime in Florida, or any other state that I'm aware of. So sure, there was probably some bad judgement here, but nothing Zimmerman did prior to the altercation was illegal per say.

During a bond hearing the prosecutors flat out admitted they have no evidence of who started the fight. Their entire case is very circumstantial and relies heavily on Martin's girlfriend's statement of what she heard over the phone shortly before the confrontation. She offers very little in terms of what was going on at the time, and seems to think she heard, over a cell phone, Zimmerman push Martin down before the phone went dead.

I just don't think they can present enough credible evidence to the jury to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman chased Martin with the intent to harm him and then proceeded to started a physical altercation with him. There simply isn't enough evidence available to do so and inevitably that will lead to doubt among the jury and in the end, an acquittal for Zimmerman.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:28 PM   #4480
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Someone explain this picture.

calls coming in during a skype session with a witness .. look at the picture on the bottom caller lol
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:33 PM   #4481
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calls coming in during a skype session with a witness .. look at the picture on the bottom caller lol

You serious? So did he know those people or was he getting trolled lmao. That shit is so random and confusing that it's hard to make sense of.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:36 PM   #4482
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It's been pretty obvious to me since I learned the facts of this case that Zimmerman is in all likelihood is going to be acquitted of Murder 2. The state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman didn't shoot Martin out of self defense. As of now, pretty much all of the evidence is inconclusive, the witnesses have largely been unreliable and the prosecution has been grasping at straws to show that Zimmerman had a violent intent. Is it possible that Zimmerman started the fight and shot Martin for the hell of it? Sure. Is there a reasonable doubt that he didn't? Absolutely.

The media, of course is trying to spin things as though the prosecution is ripping Zimmerman a new one because it boosts their ratings.

It's a very hard case for the prosecutors because they charged him with murder 2 with virtually no evidence to back it up. There's simply not enough evidence to prove beyond any reasonable doubt and the prosecution overreached on the charges like they did with Casey Anthony. They have no evidence Zimmerman chased him and tried to detain him with the intent to harm him and satisfying the dispatcher's request of "He ran? Which way did he run to?" are two very different things. Assuming someone is acting suspicious and following them isn't a crime in Florida, or any other state that I'm aware of. So sure, there was probably some bad judgement here, but nothing Zimmerman did prior to the altercation was illegal per say.

During a bond hearing the prosecutors flat out admitted they have no evidence of who started the fight. Their entire case is very circumstantial and relies heavily on Martin's girlfriend's statement of what she heard over the phone shortly before the confrontation. She offers very little in terms of what was going on at the time, and seems to think she heard, over a cell phone, Zimmerman push Martin down before the phone went dead.

I just don't think they can present enough credible evidence to the jury to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman chased Martin with the intent to harm him and then proceeded to started a physical altercation with him. There simply isn't enough evidence available to do so and inevitably that will lead to doubt among the jury and in the end, an acquittal for Zimmerman.

agreed .. this whole trial has been a sham .. politically motivated .. there's so much reasonable doubt as of right now and the defense hasn't even gotten their case on yet .. almost every freakin prosecution witness has said something to favor zimmerman .. that says it all
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:37 PM   #4483
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You serious? So did he know those people or was he getting trolled lmao. That shit is so random and confusing that it's hard to make sense of.

lol definitely a troll job
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:47 PM   #4484
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So Zimmerman said he didn't know about the laws but got an A in this guys law class and was one of the best students. Then he apparently took another online class where the topic was covered as well. The connection, not that the prosecution is good at highlighting this stuff, is apparently that Zim is an consistent liar because he knows how the law works and is suiting everything to meet the laws as he knows it. Didn't see this one coming - and its the first time I see the prosecution using their wits. But they still have to tie it in good and hard for it to work.

OK, just heard the prosecution made it less ominous than what I said above. They are saying his police ambitions, would be the reason he might be lying to try to initially get a stand your ground case.

The witness confirmed that Z wasn't taught about SYG. As for your point though, so? I got an A in modern physics, but I sure don't remember how to solve a particle in a box problem.
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Old 07-03-2013, 04:14 PM   #4485
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so my understanding is they're going to call tm's mom today and that's it ? .. anyone thinks gz should be found guilty of 2nd degree murder based off this prosecution case ?
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