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Old 07-12-2013, 10:54 AM   #5566
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1600 meters.

15 seconds per 100 meters isn't far-fetched at all. I'm not in good shape, and even I manage that. For someone in good physical shape, it can be done, which is what O'Mara said. And the prosecution has painted Trayvon as "muh football player" throughout the trial, so O'Mara is using that to benefit his case as well.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:55 AM   #5567
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1600 meters.

15 seconds per 100 meters isn't far-fetched at all. I'm not in good shape, and even I manage that. For someone in good physical shape, it can be done, which is what O'Mara said. And the prosecution has painted Trayvon as "muh football player" throughout the trial, so O'Mara is using that to benefit his case as well.

If you can prove that you can run a mile in 4 minutes, I'll wire transfer you $10,000.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:57 AM   #5568
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I don't think TM or GZ was afraid. Fear would have kept GZ in the car and fear would have made TM go home.


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Old 07-12-2013, 10:58 AM   #5569
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O'Mara didn't even use Trayvon's 'creepy ass cracker' remark as character assassination when the state has pretty much done nothing but try to assistant George's character. "I don't care about the stupid name he called him, he's seventeen years old everyone says stupid things at that age."

Based O'Mara really is too good for us.

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Old 07-12-2013, 10:59 AM   #5570
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Jurors E6, B29 and alternate E13 taking notes as O’Mara goes over each witness. Got a PowerPoint & is showing photos of each

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Some of the jurors are taking notes about the defense pointing out weaknesses in state witnesses’ testimon

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Old 07-12-2013, 11:00 AM   #5571
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So? If trayvon didn't beat the shit out of zimmerman then trayvon probably wouldn't have got shot.

So, we're playing the 'if game'?
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:02 AM   #5572
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"F*cking punks"

"These assholes".

And last, but certainly not least,


"No regrets."


Hatred. Spite. Ill Will. Along with a decorated past of reckless behavior.

Guilty of Murder 2.

But I'll take this compromise conviction of manslaughter no problem. He won't come out of prison alive.
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:07 AM   #5573
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"F*cking punks"

"These assholes".

And last, but certainly not least,


"No regrets."


Hatred. Spite. Ill Will. Along with a decorated past of reckless behavior.

Guilty of Murder 2.

But I'll take this compromise conviction of manslaughter no problem. He won't come out of prison alive.

that's absolutely NO proof of ill will, spite hatred or any of that other shit ..

and 'no regrets' .. yes he should have regrets for defending himself .. no ..

gz will walk
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:12 AM   #5574
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Wow, I'm disappointed in some of O'Mara's closing. Thought he'd go harder than he did. Loved the Reasonable Doubt chart though

And where the hell did anyone get Trayvon was 4 miles away from his house? I doubt that whole community even spans 4 miles and he was only a couple away. Anyone, in half decent shape, should be able to run past 3 houses in about 20 seconds, if even that, let alone a high school kid.
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:16 AM   #5575
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Wow, I'm disappointed in some of O'Mara's closing. Thought he'd go harder than he did. Loved the Reasonable Doubt chart though

And where the hell did anyone get Trayvon was 4 miles away from his house? I doubt that whole community even spans 4 miles and he was only a couple away. Anyone, in half decent shape, should be able to run past 3 houses in about 20 seconds, if even that, let alone a high school kid.

the point was that there was a 4 min time span that tm had to go home or get away etc(if we should believe he was being 'hunted down') .. but he didn't .. nor did he call for help .. instead he stayed on the phone with a female friend(who stated he was standing in front of his place at one point) and did not go home .. he wasn't in fear of anything because gz wasn't posing a threat to him .. he was annoying tray tray
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:21 AM   #5576
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the point was that there was a 4 min time span that tm had to go home or get away etc(if we should believe he was being 'hunted down') .. but he didn't .. nor did he call for help .. instead he stayed on the phone with a female friend(who stated he was standing in front of his place at one point) and did not go home .. he wasn't in fear of anything because gz wasn't posing a threat to him .. he was annoying tray tray

I get 4 minutes being brought up, though I don't think it was that long, but a mile? 4 miles? Where did all that come from? O'Mara stating that someone in shape can do a mile in 4 has what relevance to the distance that Trayvon was from his house?

He was right there, and for whatever reason, he decided against going home. Could have been his ego, could have been Precious, could have been not wanting the cracka to know where he lives, etc.
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:22 AM   #5577
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I'll play your game - it's against the law to not go directly home?

I wouldn't go directly home if I feel that some creepy guy is following me.
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:23 AM   #5578
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I get 4 minutes being brought up, though I don't think it was that long, but a mile? 4 miles? Where did all that come from? O'Mara stating that someone in shape can do a mile in 4 has what relevance to the distance that Trayvon was from his house?

He was right there, and for whatever reason, he decided against going home. Could have been his ego, could have been Precious, could have been not wanting the cracka to know where he lives, etc.


yeah he didn't need to compare it to running a mile .. he was just showing that tm had plenty of time to disappear and not encounter gz .. that's all
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:25 AM   #5579
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Mark O'Mara just said the witness who made the first phone call said she waited 20-25 seconds before she called 9/11. That's gigantic.

If the prosecution has accurate timing on on all the calls, this almost directly supports the idea that Zimmerman confronted Martin while he was still on phone with Rachel Jenteal.

Also the animation that the defense just showed is pretty laughable in this respect: They didn't actually animate the two characters. They animated some text. It was a slideshow of still pictures. Just as Zimmerman couldn't explain his movements from the the "T" to when TM died and couldn't explain how he got from the bottom to the top, the video they showed, just showed still "position" based on what witnesses saw. So the videos is not intended to tell Zimmerman's story, it just shows the bits what is known and unknown. It leaves all the gaps intact. It doesn't animate to show the many, many punches that Zimmerman say happened in a short period of time. It doesn't show the many, many times Zimmerman says TM banged his head on the concrete....they would have to show how long he was near any concrete, it doesn't show TM smothering Martin with his hands, and then reaching for this gun, etc. I would have loved to see how fast the figures would have had to move to accomplish that. It would have been interesting to see what they did with GZ's hands too, during the fight, because he had no defense wounds.

It probably doesn't mean much to the jury, because they probably didn't know "an animation" was coming, but it was pretty underwhelming. It does give you an a sense of the scene, but if I was on a jury, I would be extra skeptical to a video recreation because they is so many ways to manipulate the point of view.


O'Mara's a very good lawyer and much easier to listen to than the prosecution.
Amusing things to look for in the animation:

I want to see:
*the left hook that knocked Zim 50 feet into the "T."
*Trayvon skipping because the creepy weirdo is pursing him.
*Zimmerman shaking because he is scared of TM.
*Zimmerman eagerly looking for an address by his home to see where he is.
*Trayvon circling the car like Hannibal circling Rome.
*Trayvon using 1970's slang
*Trayvon coming from out of the bushes in front of Zim and simultaneously coming from in back of him at the "T"
*Zim just letting Trayvon's 8 hands, slam his head, smother his mouth, MMA punch his face, reach for his gun, while Zim hands are stretched out just doing nothing.
*The "oh you got me" scene.
*The moron still worrying about apprehending the now dead Trayvon
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:25 AM   #5580
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O'Mara-" He's a liar? Really?"

umm, he has already been proved of lying you moron.
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