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Old 07-15-2013, 01:53 PM   #6601
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Id like to get your opinion on this vid Dude77


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7i60GuNRg#
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:58 PM   #6602
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As a black man I must say Im appalled by that story. Theres ignorance in all races.

I do think you owe the black community an apology. There hasnt been this big huge civil unrest that you and people like you claimed there would be.

It's a nice thing to see(or not see rather) ..

I don't know about an apology .. there's a reason why everyone was expecting it .. including the pd's .. but I give people credit for not losing it and acting like crazy fks
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:58 PM   #6603
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Id like to get your opinion on this vid Dude77


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7i60GuNRg#

ok it shows up .. that's fkd up lol ..

notice it also changes if it's a woman .. i don't know how it would go if it was a black chick

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Old 07-15-2013, 02:07 PM   #6604
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It's a nice thing to see(or not see rather) ..

I don't know about an apology .. there's a reason why everyone was expecting it .. including the pd's .. but I give people credit for not losing it and acting like crazy fks
I know a large portion of your reasoning stems from the Rodney King verdict. But you gitta remember, months prior, Natasha Harlens was shot in the back by a liquor store owner after an altercation. This incident like Kings was caught on tape. And the women was let go. Then a few months later the police are caught on video beating a man. And they were initially set free.


Whats more, is for the longest, the Black community has constantly made claims of brutality by police and unfair treatment by local patrons. People like you reply and act as if were exaggerating or lying. Thats why we get pissed
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:11 PM   #6605
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ok it shows up .. that's fkd up lol ..

notice it also changes if it's a woman .. i don't know how it would go if it was a black chick
Probably not far from the black male. But this is how blacks are treated everyday. Were looked at differently. Almost as if we must prove were not criminals.

And Im firmly concinced a stereotype is what got Trayvon Martin killed.
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:18 PM   #6606
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lol you added that into what I wrote, I didnt.


yes....

I added what GZ said in his police interviews....( If that is true .....it adds another element to self defense)

not sure how you missed a key piece of testimony.


Edit: Not saying what GZ said is 100% true....just replying/editing your post because you did try to list facts/testimony about the case.....but forgot to list a key peice....( If TM tried to get the weapon or not)

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Old 07-15-2013, 02:21 PM   #6607
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Probably not far from the black male. But this is how blacks are treated everyday. Were looked at differently. Almost as if we must prove were not criminals.

And Im firmly concinced a stereotype is what got Trayvon Martin killed.

The stereotype may be why Zim followed trayvon initially.

But the reason Zim claims he shot trayvon was because he was getting punched from the mount position and his head was being slammed into the ground. Zim claims he verbally confronted Trayvon about his suspicions that trayvon was the robber that had recently robbed a string of homes. Zim claims trayvon threw a punch and knocked him to the ground. Got on top of him and mounted him.

Zim used a self defense argument for his trial. basically he couldnt physically stop trayvon from beating him or convince trayvon to stop via pleading, and he was worried that if trayvon kept slamming his head into the ground he would go unconscious.

The jury accepted his Zim's account, based largely on the fact that the prosecution couldnt prove beyond reasonable doubt that zim had not shot trayvon in self defense.

The actual injuries on Zim were a broken nose, black eyes and cuts to the back of his head. Trayvon's autopsy revealed abrasion on his hand, and the gunshot wound. He had no marks on the face or body indicating he got hit.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3598228.html

The prosecution never could explain the injuries Zim had incurred.
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:37 PM   #6608
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And Im firmly concinced a stereotype is what got Trayvon Martin killed.

You're right in a way. Trayvon trying to act like a stereotypical gang banger thug is what got him killed.
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:39 PM   #6609
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Probably not far from the black male. But this is how blacks are treated everyday. Were looked at differently. Almost as if we must prove were not criminals.

And Im firmly concinced a stereotype is what got Trayvon Martin killed.


True....


- but IMO as we progress as a species ....

- it is becoming more and more a " class" based prejudice...then " race" based.

- yes there are some ignorant MF'ers / trolls in the real world......but IMO....to say as a whole " Black People" get looked at differently......is just plain false.

- far more evidence suggest we are using a class based criteria to define our judgment....

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Old 07-15-2013, 02:41 PM   #6610
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The stereotype may be why Zim followed trayvon initially.

But the reason Zim claims he shot trayvon was because he was getting punched from the mount position and his head was being slammed into the ground. Zim claims he verbally confronted Trayvon about his suspicions that trayvon was the robber that had recently robbed a string of homes. Zim claims trayvon threw a punch and knocked him to the ground. Got on top of him and mounted him.

Zim used a self defense argument for his trial. basically he couldnt physically stop trayvon from beating him or convince trayvon to stop via pleading, and he was worried that if trayvon kept slamming his head into the ground he would go unconscious.

The jury accepted his Zim's account, based largely on the fact that the prosecution couldnt prove beyond reasonable doubt that zim had not shot trayvon in self defense.

The actual injuries on Zim were a broken nose, black eyes and cuts to the back of his head. Trayvon's autopsy revealed abrasion on his hand, and the gunshot wound. He had no marks on the face or body indicating he got hit.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3598228.html

The prosecution never could explain the injuries Zim had incurred.
I never believed they had to explain Zimmerans injuries. He was getting his ass kicked in a fight HE STARTED. He followed Martin, he got out of his truck to persue Martin. Think about that precedent. A man with a gun picks a fight with you, you get the upperhand and he shoots you?
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:43 PM   #6611
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I never believed they had to explain Zimmerans injuries. He was getting his ass kicked in a fight HE STARTED. He followed Martin, he got out of his truck to persue Martin. Think about that precedent. A man with a gun picks a fight with you, you get the upperhand and he shoots you?

The evidence states otherwise.
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:45 PM   #6612
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You're right in a way. Trayvon trying to act like a stereotypical gang banger thug is what got him killed.
Shut up.
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:17 PM   #6613
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The evidence states otherwise.
No. This altercatiin never happens if Zimmerman stays in his car. Martin Is where hes supposed be. Your problem is that Zimmerman git his ass kicked
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:19 PM   #6614
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No. This altercatiin never happens if Zimmerman stays in his car. Martin Is where hes supposed be. Your problem is that Zimmerman git his ass kicked

It also never happens if Trayvon walks into his house instead of confronting Zimmerman and then assaulting him.
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:19 PM   #6615
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No. This altercatiin never happens if Zimmerman stays in his car. Martin Is where hes supposed be. Your problem is that Zimmerman git his ass kicked
ZIMMERMAN IS NOT REQUIRED BY LAW TO STAY IN HIS CAR, WHAT IS SO ****ING HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?

Jesus, the stupidity in here is so astounding that you're making me want to go get a gun and go on some mass killing spree. There is no hope for humanity when people are this dumb.
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