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Old 03-15-2012, 09:15 PM   #1
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Default In 20 Years Kobe Will Be Remembered As The GOAT

Now that the Lakers have acquired Ramon Sessions and Kobe will win another championship this year, he will be remembered as the GOAT. In 20 years when kids are younger and the years have gone by and people have forgotten some of the bad chucking games he's had, they will only remember his stats and big games and rings and people will consider him better than Michael Jordan.



And LeBron James will still have 0 rings.
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If Kobe wins 10 rings he still won't be the GOAT.
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Now that the Lakers have acquired Ramon Sessions and Kobe will win another championship this year, he will be remembered as the GOAT. In 20 years when kids are younger and the years have gone by and people have forgotten some of the bad chucking games he's had, they will only remember his stats and big games and rings and people will consider him better than Michael Jordan.



And LeBron James will still have 0 rings.

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Bill Russell has freakin' 11 rings, and he's not viewed as the consensus majority GOAT.
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Weak era. :p
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Bill Russell has freakin' 11 rings, and he's not viewed as the consensus majority GOAT.

thats because hes not as good as kobe
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Default Re: In 20 Years Kobe Will Be Remembered As The GOAT

As timeless as Kobe possibly could be, a lot of things don't get better with age.

I've heard one very interesting claim that people from 20 years from now (the generation that never saw Kobe)... might not even have Kobe in their Top 20 and probably might not even have him in their Top 30 and that generation would laugh at the generation of today putting Kobe in their Top 10.

Offcourse, that's not my claim, but we won't know how well Kobe's legacy will age (no matter how timless he is), until he retires.
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Default Re: In 20 Years Kobe Will Be Remembered As The GOAT

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Now that the Lakers have acquired Ramon Sessions and Kobe will win another championship this year, he will be remembered as the GOAT. In 20 years when kids are younger and the years have gone by and people have forgotten some of the bad chucking games he's had, they will only remember his stats and big games and rings and people will consider him better than Michael Jordan.



And LeBron James will still have 0 rings.

This is why we have the internet. To keep reminding people how bad of a chucker Kobe is and he rode Shaq's coattails for 3 rings and Pau's coattails for 2. People will always remember that Kobe isn't as great as Jordan, regardless how many rings Lebron wins.
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:53 PM   #9
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Default Re: In 20 Years Kobe Will Be Remembered As The GOAT

Jordan was really big in the 90s, as well as other super stars, and it's amazing seeing how much their values has gone down in the eyes of new people who are not familiar with them.

Kobe has 5 championship, but not many memorable playoff moments like Jordan, Bird, etc or big shots like Fisher. People will look at his 41% finals shooting percentage, 6-24 game 7. His value will go down. Everyone's value does. And Jordan is considered the GOAT not because he happened to be there, but because he was beyond anyone, including Kobe, and stepped it up on the biggest moments. It's not a coincidence that people before Jordan's time, also consider him the GOAT, and pretty much anyone who saw him play. The majority of people don't have an illogical fanboy mentality that only pick their favorite player, so consider those last two facts.

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Lakers aren't winning anything.
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:56 PM   #11
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Jordan was really big in the 90s, as well as other super stars, and it's amazing seeing how much their values has gone down in the eyes of new people who are not familiar with them.

Kobe has 5 championship, but not many memorable playoff moments like Jordan, Bird, etc or big shots like Fisher. People will look at his 41% finals shooting percentage, 6-24. His value will go down. Everyone's value does. And Jordan is considered the GOAT not because he happened to be there, but because he was beyond anyone, including Kobe, and stepped it up on the biggest moments. It's not a coincidence that people before Jordan's time, also consider him the GOAT, and pretty much anyone who saw him play. The majority of people don't have an illogical fanboy mentality that only pick their favorite player, so consider those last two facts.
I think kareem and oscar are not agreeing with you...
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:58 PM   #12
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As timeless as Kobe possibly could be, a lot of things don't get better with age.

I've heard one very interesting claim that people from 20 years from now (the generation that never saw Kobe)... might not even have Kobe in their Top 20 and probably might not even have him in their Top 30 and that generation would laugh at the generation of today putting Kobe in their Top 10.

Offcourse, that's not my claim, but we won't know how well Kobe's legacy will age (no matter how timless he is), until he retires.

I clearly saw this a couple of years ago when I read some kids on youtube talking about Shaq. To them prime Shaq was the same as old Shaq. It's an interesting phenomenon. Another one is that super stars, like say Kevin Garnette, they get forgotten, so they will also say things like there were no super stars back then, because I've read some comments where kids literally think that Jordan and a couple other of the big names were the only super stars in the league. Outside of these basketball forums, they don't even know how good Olajuwon was, etc, the name might be familiar, but to them he's probably just regular players.

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I think kareem and oscar are not agreeing with you...

I don't mean every single person before Jordan, but the vast majority. For example Magic Johnson and Larry Bird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u69SCU79_O0

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He is the GOAT.
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:04 PM   #14
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Default Re: In 20 Years Kobe Will Be Remembered As The GOAT

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As timeless as Kobe possibly could be, a lot of things don't get better with age.

I've heard one very interesting claim that people from 20 years from now (the generation that never saw Kobe)... might not even have Kobe in their Top 20 and probably might not even have him in their Top 30 and that generation would laugh at the generation of today putting Kobe in their Top 10.

Offcourse, that's not my claim, but we won't know how well Kobe's legacy will age (no matter how timless he is), until he retires.

Good point.

Any future generations of basketball fans who did not get to witness Kobe first-hand, in his prime, and see what a legendary scorer and player that he was might hold a generally lower opinion of him than the fans of today do.

In the future, some might come to think of Kobe's 81 point game like Wilt's 100 point game - moderately impressive, but accomplished against inferior competition that wouldn't even be able to hold a candle to so-called "modern talent."
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Do people seriously think Kobe is the greatest basketball player of all time? I thought it was a joke at first, but really?? Dude isn't even top 5.
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