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Old 04-03-2012, 08:05 PM   #31
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Olajuwom, Ewing, Robinson, Yao, Bynum??
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Olajuwom, Ewing, Robinson, Yao, Bynum??


David Robinson measured 7-0 and 226lbs for the 1989 Olympics, despite at the time being listed as 7-1 235

Yao Ming according to the rockets was measured to have a 7-5 wingspan and a 9-7 standing reach (probably in shoes). Fiba lists him at 226cm, they do not measure in shoes which makes his height 7-4.97 (well... basically, 7-5)

"Bynum was quite possibly the biggest snub for the physicals at the Chicago Pre-Draft Camp, but has really put up some impressive numbers for a player of his size in his private workouts. “I measured out at 7’0 barefoot, I have a 7’6 wingspan, I have a 37 inch vertical off of one step and a 33 inch vertical from a standstill.” Andrew went on to say “I was never put on the bench for the bench press, so I’m not sure what my exact numbers are. I do know that my standing reach was 9’3 or 9’4.”
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1r1ZTjxZO
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Ewing and Olajuwon have literally never had any published measurement data about them. Speculatively, their heights are unanimously agreed to be anywhere from 6'9-6'11 barefoot but there has never been any real measurement data for either one of them whether it be height or wingspan. David Robinson at 7-0 is the only measurement he's got, no wingspan or reach info so I don't think I'll add him, I don't mind adding newer generation players but I'm going to try and keep the main post about well-known bigs with more information than just height/weight. Yao and Bynum are good additions though - I was surprised I found that much info seeing as how they didn't go through the draft

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"about 10" from wrist to fingertip" for Yao Mings hand length, NY times so that's another great detailed measurement for Yao.

Also, for anyone curious, found MJ's hand length from the knoxville news sentinal "9 3/4" from palm to middle finger". His hands are like Wilt's though, they are built very broad, and based on the measurements so far I'm almost positive that broad hands >>> long hands in terms of palming strength

Wayne Embry, oddly enough, had his hand width measurement published in a 1989 NYT article. "12 inches thumb to pinky"

Embry is a 60's player who was an all-star a few times but otherwise wouldn't be well known today. I've always noticed in pictures that he had a monstrous set of mits and that measurement seems absolutely plausible. He was ~6-8 barefoot, and 255lbs, no other data on him though

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Great work, much appreciated!
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Could you do Charles Barkley? Btw, great work. Thanks.
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Interesting that Wilt's hand length wasn't that big for his height.
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Default Re: Russell, Chamberlain, Kareem - How did they measure up?:

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Wilt Chamberlain:
Billed Information:
NCAA: 7-0
Philadelphia Warriors: 7-1 1/16, 250
Basketball Reference: 7-1, 275
NBA (All teams after the Warriors): 7-1, 275

Actual Measurements:
Height: 7-1.06 (6-11.5 age 17, 7-1.06 age 23)
Wingspan: 7-8
Standing Reach: 9-6
Hand Length: 9.5"
Hand Spread: 11.5"
Playing Weight:
258 - rookie
265 - 3rd season
292 - 5th season
275 - mid career
285 - mid-late career
300 - late career
320 - maximum (training camp of 5th season)
Shoes: U.S. size 15

Damn. 7'1 Wilt has the same shoe size as 6'3.75 Dwyane Wade?
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If that's Wade's shoe size, than yes, he does
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Interesting that Wilt's hand length wasn't that big for his height.

Wilt's hands just seem short in comparison to guys with quite freakishly long hands like Russell or Shaq. His hands are actually a good length, it's his hand width+length that sets him apart from the pack. In footage he waves the ball around with a very firm grip like it's nothing but a grapefruit in a manner that neither Russell nor Shaq displayed. 9.5 x 11.5 is a larger surface area than Shaq's 11 x 9 hands
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I might add Lebron James to the front page list, I'm getting some measurements of him that you can't find on draft express

9" hand length
9.25" hand width

nba.com says shoe size 14
official cavsgroup facebook says size 15
the internet is slathered with size 16

and I have some of his weigh ins at various points of his career

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I might add Lebron James to the front page list, I'm getting some measurements of him that you can't find on draft express

9" hand length
9.25" hand width

nba.com says shoe size 14
official cavsgroup facebook says size 15
the internet is slathered with size 16

and I have some of his weigh ins at various points of his career
Never thought much of his wing span. Probably like the average person's.
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Never thought much of his wing span. Probably like the average person's.
His 7'0.25 wingspan and the rest of his measurements are on draftexpress.com/measurements
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"about 10" from wrist to fingertip" for Yao Mings hand length, NY times so that's another great detailed measurement for Yao.

Also, for anyone curious, found MJ's hand length from the knoxville news sentinal "9 3/4" from palm to middle finger". His hands are like Wilt's though, they are built very broad, and based on the measurements so far I'm almost positive that broad hands >>> long hands in terms of palming strength

Wayne Embry, oddly enough, had his hand width measurement published in a 1989 NYT article. "12 inches thumb to pinky"

Embry is a 60's player who was an all-star a few times but otherwise wouldn't be well known today. I've always noticed in pictures that he had a monstrous set of mits and that measurement seems absolutely plausible. He was ~6-8 barefoot, and 255lbs, no other data on him though

Wayne Embry palming the ball in game.
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It'd be fun to see Jordan's hand size, or Dr. J or Connie Hawkins... those guys had enormous hands and that was part of the reason why they were able to make such amazing drives!!

Wilt Chamberlain always argued that standing reach should be the true NBA measurement, and sometimes gave the example of Nate Thurmond having about a 4 or 5 inch higher reach than Wilt did. I remember him talking about it on TV and there might be a youtube clip of him talking about it

Edit ~ that picture of Embry reminds me of one time after he went to the Celtics and he played really pretty much limited but powerful minutes as center. He had guarded Chamberlain for years and knew as much as anybody what you had to endure.... so anyhow Bill Russell had a genius for figuring out what was happening, he put Wayne at Center and put himself at forward guarding Chet Walker.

Anyhow on this particular play the ball clanged off the rim and Embry got the rebound by reaching OVER Luke Jackson's shoulder and palmed the top of the ball as it was flying away from him.

Luke (who was destined imo to be one of the greatest ever before his injury sadly wrecked his career) lost complete vision of the ball and did a full 360 trying to find it lol



Bill Russell's arms were astounding they just seemed to get longer and longers as the game went on until it looked like he was looming from sideline to sideline!! Guy had such a presence it was incredible!!

Bill going after the ball:


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"about 10" from wrist to fingertip" for Yao Mings hand length, NY times so that's another great detailed measurement for Yao.

Also, for anyone curious, found MJ's hand length from the knoxville news sentinal "9 3/4" from palm to middle finger". His hands are like Wilt's though, they are built very broad, and based on the measurements so far I'm almost positive that broad hands >>> long hands in terms of palming strength

Wayne Embry, oddly enough, had his hand width measurement published in a 1989 NYT article. "12 inches thumb to pinky"

Embry is a 60's player who was an all-star a few times but otherwise wouldn't be well known today. I've always noticed in pictures that he had a monstrous set of mits and that measurement seems absolutely plausible. He was ~6-8 barefoot, and 255lbs, no other data on him though

#15 there is Hall of Famer Tommy Heinsohn I don't really remember him playing, just an image of him running out onto the court - but he was by all accounts one of the greatest players of his era, Rookie of the Year, and really the Celtic's main scoring force in the front court. My older friends were always talking about how lucky those Celtics teams were because Hondo Havlicek turned out to be even better than Tommy was.
They really were a dream team, each position had one of the top 5 NBA players of their day, and in those days before free agency there was no possibility of another team beating them.

Some of the guys I knew that were a few years older have said that the NBA would never have survived the early 60s if Chamberlain had not showed up, simply because the outcome was never in doubt except when he was playing.

The only way another team could have beat the 8-peat Celtics was if they took every other All-Star and made a single team out of them.
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